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i am also extremely convinced that if i just adjust myself enough there will be a big crack andall of my aches and pains will immediately go away an d I will have perfect posture and i will be cured of mental health and find a million bajillion dollars on the floor and live till im 120

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[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Chiropractor is like half scam, and half accidentally doing physical therapy because insurance will fund you going to scam doctor but not the real physical therapist.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah the positive benefits to any chiropractic is accidental. It's like a cargo cult accidentally making a decent runway for a plane to land on. It worked but the theory to get there was wrong. We know that physical manipulation and massage of injuries make people feel better, but there isn't ghosts in your spine, it's better to see a physiotherapist.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find the fact that it's covered by Medicare and some insurance options very confusing and amusing.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

"Healthcare plz"

the monkey's paw curls

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, I didn't suspect it was fake until it was explained to me that it was. I recall as a kid thinking my nose being blocked from allergies would be solved if I could just get what seemed to be a 4inch ball of snot out from behind my eyeballs, where in reality that was inflammation making the snot feel big, but I still believe kinda if I ever got this giant ball of mucus out then I'd never be stuffed up again.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's pretty reasonable, your nerves can't tell whether your sinuses are getting painful pressure from mucus or inflammation.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And when you're blasting out mad mucus it makes even more sense. I totally get how we got to humors before germ theory.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely, and even germ theory is like, not actually very accurate beyond the bare elements of needing some infectious microbe - it doesn't address how social conditions contribute to health with infectious diseases, account for asymptomatic carriers or has any awareness of the role of commensal bacteria, for example.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Happy for you to explain how with reference to classic germ theory.

Here is a good journal article that balances the critique of germ theory while dispensing with the idiotic alternative (i.e. that microbes* are not causative agents in infectious disease) - https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2319605121

*Is a prion a microbe? Fucking prions.

[–] asa_red_heathen@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had a dream once as a kid where I blew out a massive snot ball the size of my head and it felt amazing.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Deep down I'm still pretty sure everything wrong with me could be cured by expelling some sort of evil force that looks like Blight from Zelda Breath of the Wild and I will be immune from all ailment once it's gone

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

There are two wolves inside me one of them wants to yell at those quacks that it should be called chiropracty not chiropractic the other says prescriptivism is bad and those quacks can call their quackery whatever they like

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

im simply built different. this stretch for sure

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

I went to my spine-cracking witch doctor today and I feel much better thank you

Whatever goats he's sacrificing they're the right ones

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I'm sure chiropractors would love me for those ASMR videos they post because my neck is very loud when it cracks.

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is how I feel about wanting to go back in time to avert all my stupid mistakes and/or just becoming a wolf in a forest somewhere or something

Please....... living like this is too painful doomer, maybe if I want it hard enough it will happen, or I'll die in my sleep maybe

No hard feelings toward most of the TikTok reality shifter people, what else can you do when grinding, crushing, mummifying late capitalism seems to be the natural state of the world*

biaoqing-copium

*marx-hi

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why the fuck is it called "chiropractic" and not like, chiropracty or chiropractice or something?

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i went for 'chiropracty' then 'chiropractition' and I kept getting the red line so I looked it up and like, what? at least call it some shit like 'chiropractic medicine' or 'chiropractic therapy' if you absolutely have to.

-ic means OF OR PERTAINING TO matt-jokerfied WHEN I SEE IC SUFFIX I EXPECT A SUBFIELD OR TERMINOLOGY AFTER IT hypersus

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

very^n+1^ critical support to Daniel D. Palmer for making english worse

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] utopologist@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

That's what the ghost that invented it called it

[–] buh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bit idea: chiropractics that turns you into a girl

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] buh@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

they just have to break the Male Bone

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Anecdotal evidence: When our first child was born they wouldn't lie on one side, seemed restless and had trouble sleeping. Not knowing much about chiropracy party from it being "someone who does spine stuff" and having had it recommended we went to a chiropractor with our infant.

The chiropractor massaged their neck and made it say a small cracking sound and that was it. The baby wasn't happy about the whole thing but it actually helped, they slept much better afterwards and could lie on either side without issues.

I don't know if I would do it again, knowing the quackery behind it all, but as a layman I wouldn't be too surprised if you could actually improve some neck and back issues by popping things back into place. Cracking your neck feels great so having someone else crack it would be good as well?

Maybe there's a difference between European and American chiropractors? Around here they are educated at real universities, they are supervised and credentialed by health authorities and I've never heard anybody talk about them as treating anything other than spine and back things. The insane claims about mental health and cancer and whatnot seems to be more of an American thing.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chiropractors were banned in my country from performing spinal manipulation techniques on children under 12 because they occasionally break babies' necks and there's no strong evidence to support their efficacy.

Here they're educated at real universities and the study period can often be longer than a real medical degree. They are subject to the same medical professional regulatory body.

It's still a quack profession.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

economists also go to university

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I believe they're vaguely more regulated in Europe. But be careful the conclusions you draw, the modern way of supporting the lie is mixing this lethally dangerous pseudoscience with real science.

Even if they did nothing else, it's possible that their massaging the neck was enough, and the rest was nonsense/dangerous. Placebo in babies is also a genuine thing (usually proxied via the parents).

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

There's like a solid 30% chance whoever recommended that was trying to kill the kid.

The cracking is just gas escaping, and they achieve it by forcing joints to move how they shouldn't.

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

A physical therapist could have done the same with a significantly lower risk level. Chiropracty is literally made up nonsense that hits right exclusively by accident. PT usually follows modern evidence based methods. PT also usually tries to get you to a good place and teach you how to maintain that by yourself so you're not constantly paying some quack pretend doctor in a strip mall to "realign" you to Earth's Central Beam or whatever.