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Bernie on the right side of history as usual.
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For those who don’t know (there are probably a few) Bernie is Jewish, and his opinions better reflect the rest of us Jews than the crazies on the right (and left) and in Israel. I don’t have stats, but every American Jew I’ve talked to about this has been morally outraged and frankly mortified by Israel’s actions. We understand how it looks to the rest of the world. Don’t let the antisemitism arguments (usually pushed by Christians btw) fool you. Bernie is on the right side of this issue, as usual.
Fellow American Jew here. Very much agreed. Israel doesn't represent us, even if it tries to say it does.
Texan Jew here. I'm surrounded by a sea of monsters.
I've made documentaries, art projects, and memorials for family members who were in the Holocaust. A few survived (literally, like, 3 of them), but multitudes more were killed. My family and community has praised me for my passionate interest and attempts to teach younger generations the dangers of complacency and compartmentalizing. One of my relatives even helped pass a law adding Holocaust Remembrance Week as part of the curriculum for every grade level in Texas.
We've seen this kind of destruction before, we've lived this oppression and violence before. We have discussed how our family might have changed had over 90% of them not been killed.
HOW THE FUCK IS MY FAMILY AND COMMUNITY OKAY WITH ANOTHER GENOCIDE???
The self-delusion, what-abouts, stereotypes, and straight-up racist insults.
"They'd kill us if given the opportunity"
YOU'RE ALREADY KILLING THEM
"These are really bad, violent people"
THEY ARE CHILDREN AND CIVILIANS AND THEY ARE DYING
"It's not comparable to the Holocaust. Germany killed 6 million..."
THAT’S YOUR FUCKING CUTOFF???
WE GOTTA WAIT FOR 6 MILLION PEOPLE TO DIE BEFORE WE CAN EMPATHIZE WITH VICTIMS OF GENOCIDE??? Where was this sense of calm and nonchalance when Nazis were posting propaganda around town? How many of your kids need to be dismembered and vaporized before you say "this is more than upsetting, this is WRONG"??!
I swear, I'm probably less than a month away from hearing someone I once respected say "the Palestinian cries out in pain as they hit you."
Omfg I feel you so hard on this with a few people, but am fortunate to not be in Texas.
"Never again," my ass. Those types of people mean only "never again for me and mine." Genocide is genocide is genocide, regardless of whether we're the victim or not.
Israel learned the wrong lesson from the Holocaust. They decided that the next time somebody gets stepped on, they're going to be the boot, not the bug.
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“It’s not comparable to the Holocaust. Germany killed 6 million…”
There are fewer than 6 million people in all of Palestine. If that's their cutoff, they can eradicate everyone and "it still wouldn't be as bad." That's probably their thought process.
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Another American Jew chiming in. Israel has never represented me. I'm from Indiana. I have far more in common with a Palestinian-American from Tuscon, Arizona than I do any Jew in Haifa.
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Ever thus to ethno nationalism.
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It’s the Christian zionists here in the US that support this genocide because they think it will help expedite the end of the world
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This makes sense, because this isn’t an Israeli or Jewish endeavor. It’s Benjamin Netanyahu desperately provoking a war to maintain his grip on power, because as soon as he’s out of power he will have to be held accountable for his many crimes. Bibi would rather die in office than face that. It’s truly regrettable that his actions have soured the entire world’s opinion on Israel, but here we are.
Netanyahu is to blame for making the situation worse, and for actively working against a ceasefire, but I think it’s important to point out that the majority of Israelis appear to support his actions in Gaza. It’s definitely an Israeli issue and a Netanyahu issue.
The state of Israel in its inception was colonisation, apartheid, massacre, white supremacy, and genocide. Netanyahu is certainly a monster. But look at the rest of his cabinet. Listen to an interview with Israeli citizens even before October 7th in the way they speak about Palestinians and Arabs.
Israel is thoroughly and consistently sick from beginning to end, top to bottom. It’s a depraved machine of terror that runs on the blood of innocent people.
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I realize this is very sensitive issue and things have likely changed since april, but the last time I saw this polled Jewish Americans support Israel's response to Oct.7 about 62%, 33% oppose
Granted, since april and just off the top of my head, Israel has bombed a number of Gaza refugee camps, killed the Hamas negotiator, conducted two terror attacks against Lebanon, and now is talking about sending ground troops in across the border,.... so.... yea maybe things have changed
But im glad to have Sanders pushing for this though, I think it carries more weight coming from him.
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We coulda had the OG and instead they chose HRC. SMH
Fun fact: Sanders consistently out-performed Hillary in head-to-head matchups against Trump.
The same establishment that derailed Sanders and propped Hillary up were the same ones trying to force Biden down our throats while castigating any dissent.*
*I know the progressives supported Biden until the end, but this was purely a strategic reason where if anything, their calls for Biden to step aside might've had the opposite effect.
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Excuse me, we had to go with the obvious choice that would win /s
I won a porterhouse from a steakhouse over Hilary losing.
I’d rather I hadn’t won. The bet was made in primary season, and that Hilary would get the nomination and lose the election. (There was a second part that said if Bernie won the nomination he’d be POTUS)
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Call your senators. Let them know you support restricting arms to israel
This is my senator!
Call him and tell him he's awesome!
Both of mine will tell me to go pound sand.
Hello, can you be Bernie sanders please?
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Bernie is always on top of these things, and you have to respect him for that.
Polls have consistently found that the majority of the public supports an end to Israel’s genocide; a poll by the Institute for Global Affairs released this week found, for instance, that a majority of Americans think the U.S. should stop supporting Israel or make support contingent on Israeli officials’ agreement to a ceasefire deal. This includes nearly 80 percent of Democrats.
Even though 80% of Democrats are for this kind of bill watch, the majority of Congress vote against it, including the Democrats.
Goes to show Republicans (more so of course) and Democrats represent their donors more than the ppl who vote for them
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Its pretty fucked up how law seems to mean less and less nowdays. to think there even needs to be such vote about america sending weapons to country breaking international laws and doing terrorist shit.
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We could be at the end of Bernie's second term right now if Hillary hadn't staged a hostile takeover of the DNC during the primary.
trump would have been nothing more than a dated joke from TV reruns, Covid would have been handled appropriately, pretty much everyone would be measurably better off.
Dont forget what the moderate branch stole from us, they're still the ones running shit. That's not just an expression, literally the same people from back then are still running the DNC and in the current administration, they're literally still the ones running shit.
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The resolutions are not likely to pass; even if they did pass the heavily pro-Israel Congress, they would likely be vetoed by President Joe Biden, who has been insistent on sending weapons to Israel with no strings attached.
Yeah, this is an absolute shame. He tried doing something similar shortly after the genocide had started, but everyone else currently in power just shut him down almost unanimously.
If politics and getting into power wasn't 90% based on your wealth and connections, maybe US could have more people like Bernie trying to actually do good rather than trying to enrich or empower themselves.
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Just imagine: we could’ve had this guy as president for the last 4-8 years…
File that one behind the what-if of a Gore Presidency. We keep missing the alternate timelines we should have taken. Here's hoping we don't screw up once again.
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I'm glad he's giving me a chance to have yet another demonstration of how shitty our country is. Can't wait to see this fail miserably and anyone who votes for it lose their re-election.
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