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spoilerFour more Missouri healthcare workers are experiencing mild respiratory symptoms after coming in contact with a bird flu patient, health officials said Friday.

A total of six healthcare workers have now developed symptoms after having contact with the patient, who is the first confirmed person to contract the disease with no known animal exposure.

The patient has recovered, but the case is raising questions about potential human-to-human transmission of bird flu, which primarily affects animals.

The only worker who was tested for the virus had negative results, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

That worker, who was given a PCR test for the virus, had what was considered high-risk contact with the patient and later developed mild symptoms.

Another worker who had high-risk contact and three others who had low-risk contact were not tested during the time they experienced symptoms, according to the CDC.

"PCR testing would have been unreliable at the time of discovery of these individuals' prior symptoms," said the agency.

PCR testing, which can give results quickly, was common during the Covid-19 pandemic.

Along with the healthcare workers, one member of the patient's household developed symptoms, but also was not tested, according to the CDC.

All of the healthcare workers with symptoms provided blood samples for antibody testing, as well as the household contact, the CDC said.

The results of those tests remain unknown.

Bird flu, also known as avian influenza, is rare in humans. There have been 14 human cases of the viral disease in the US so far this year.

Missouri's handling of the only one with no known animal exposure has come under scrutiny.

Michael Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, told the health publication STAT that he was concerned about how long Missouri was taking to figure out who else may have been infected by the original patient.

“Public health credibility is really on the line here,” Mr Osterholm said.

The 13 other cases in 2024 involved farm workers who had links to bird flu outbreaks on dairy or poultry farms.

The CDC continues to caution that the risk to the general public remains low.

But bird flu cases among cows have been on the rise in the US this year.

Since a March outbreak was first reported, cattle in 14 states have been affected, the CDC said.

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[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Along with the healthcare workers, one member of the patient's household developed symptoms, but also was not tested, according to the CDC.

absolutely criminal failure of public health to just let these people go home without at least being heavily monitored

can't wait until someone decides to go to Kohl's or Walmart while coughing out bird flu because there's literally no accountability for anything

[–] miz@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

excuse me did you just suggest violating the most basic American right, the right to go shopping at a big chain store?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the right to go shopping at a big chain store

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-cough cough cough cough cough cough-A U-S-A U-cough cough cough cough cough cough cough cough U-S-phlegm phlegm phlegm passes out.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

"be sure to not to bunch up around the one register that is staffed or the the locked shelves containing daily essentials. or go ahead, what am I, a doctor?" –cdc

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah these workers, their families, and everyone they had contact with should be in enforced quarantine. If not wtf is the CDC doing?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

wtf is the CDC doing

Politics. The election is in about 5 weeks.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Oh right they can’t even pretend they’re doing anything.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Center for disease suggestion

[–] miz@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Center for Disease Conjecture

[–] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

“Public health credibility is really on the line here,” Mr Osterholm said.

Too late, the concept of public health is dead in the west.

covid-cool

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Feeding animals shit to the point of mutating a highly contagious bird flu to mammal then not changing protocol out of greed is peak crap-it-all-ism.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the next step: despite its clear origins in the USA, have all bourgeois media repeat that the new human-to-human bird flu originated in China until your average liberal believes it

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

As in tradition.

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's going to be Ft Dietrich again, isn't it?

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Nah, we're watching this shit happen in real time. It's pure capitalism and incompetency. The spineless CDC isn't doing their job because the capitalists wont let them and the capitalists are spreading infected feed and shit around for the savings.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well on the bright side the avian flu could destroy America

[–] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 month ago

Critical support in their struggle against the KKKracKKKers

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It won't stop with America unfortunately

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Simply turn human civilization off and back on to fix your technical issues.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

doomjak

Is there any way to interpret this information that doesn't conclude that the seal on human-to-human transmission is broken?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's possible that human-to-human transmission is still very difficult and unlikely without continual direct exposure. Healthcare workers are in constant contact with infected patients so they roll the dice over and over until, by pure chance, they get sick.

... I guess

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

I was trying to dig down deeper into the amount of cattle affected by avian flu since i feel "cattle in 14 states" is one of those CDC minimization attempts. I managed to find out 238 "herds" have been affected and the average herd in the us is 44 head. So 10k cattle (minimum?) and 20 million birds, and let's eduguess terrible protections for farm workers. Baby, we got a stew goin'!

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hope that they weren’t aware, cause if they were treating it as possible bird flu they should’ve been in head to toe PPE. Faceshield, mask, gown, gloves, booties.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's more likely that the pro-covid brainworms have convinced them that wearing PPE is tyranny. Praise Nurgle.

[–] NoYouLogOff@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

This is Missouri, so it's likely.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, I don’t think so.

It is encouraging that it seems they have a pretty close eye on everyone who has been infected. It’s still possible they are able to contain this human-to-human strain and nobody else gets infected.

They would also need to cull whatever birds are possibly infected, and hope the strain hasn’t escaped.

If this strain is in wild bird populations I think we’re fucked. Look at how many people just one person infected.

That’s a lot of ifs. I would recommend people start masking if you’re not and look into additional forms of protection.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Transmission being difficult and rare between humans is still possible, and I'd even say likely. Tiny outbreaks of weird crap happen and fizzle out all the time.

The current precautions being taken (ie: fuck all) mean it's inevitable that eventually one of these incidents will break out and become a pandemic. It's just not guaranteed to be any specific one.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is bad but probably not sustainable in this instance. One of the epidemiologists on Twitter I follow suggested that the real worry will be when avian flu hits hog farms, as that's when it'll have the opportunity to mutate into a human capable variant en masse. That, combined with humanity's newfound aversion to preventative measures, is when we'll all probably get to experience The Stand ARG.

Edit: Remember to mask, everybody.

M O O N, that spells Immoonocompromised. Which you likely are.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] un_mask_me@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

The article really reads like the "high-risk exposure" means they weren't wearing ppe, which is on par with medical settings where I'm at, with no one masking or even wearing gloves in some instances

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you don't have to mask if you don't leave your house [taps head]

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Way ahead of the game by never leaving my basement

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'll mask up... for money /$

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

is this a joke or do you have a fetish for angry women sending you death threats

[–] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

I guess you could say H5N1 has flown the coop big-cool

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago
[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

it’s fine

[–] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago
[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

It's very cool that we basically got a training plague (not trying to downplay covid but in my understanding avian flu is much more deadly) and we did nothing to improve our pandemic response. Hell, in some ways our pandemic response has been negatively impacted because of "pandemic fatigue" where people just grow tired and bored of hearing about this plague. If/when bird flu makes the widespread jump to humans we're going to have one hell of a wakeup call.

[–] jimmyjohnsandwichsix@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago