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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can't get rid of Bing web search.

Can't get rid of recommendations in start menu.

screm-a

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you will love cortana. cortana is love, cortana is life.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

They have cortana and copilot now! You get two gippities for the price of one!

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can disable all that by adding a reg key under HKCU somewhere (can't remember where exactly off the top of my head). I think you should be able to write to that without admin.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Thanks. Honestly didn't even try regedit because I figured it had to be locked down to admin-only, but hey what do you know. Got rid of web search, but the "recommended" on start apparently needs to use the group policy editor.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you can sneak open shell onto your machine I would highly recommend it. It'll give you a classic start menu from the pre-win8 days and then you can just disable the w11 search bar.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The bazinga recommendations/ads/proposals to take things to the clooooooud or to play with planet-burning "AI" shit are some of the worst.

Be sure to manually switch off "Recall" ASAP. Fuck that spyware shit.

Also do your best to disable/uninstall "OneDrive" because it can and will "randomly" make files you thought you saved locally disappear into the bazinga ether.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Discovered something horrific while doing support for a tech illiterate friend. Was trying to go to the desktop folder in explorer but C:\Users\Name\Desktop was nowhere to be found. Instead it was at C:\Users\Name\OneDrive\Desktop.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Pretty common for corpo staff

Usually means you can exfil heaps of stuff though

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

and it requires registry edits to fix them back to normal agony-shivering

[–] roux@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So like I have to assume that this is the case for a large amount of Windows users. Doesn't this essentially put everyone's Home directory at a single point of failure?

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't put it that way. I assume they are only doing it by default for some folders like ~\Desktop, ~\Documents etc. For the average user this "feature" must be transparent in the sense that mostly you won't notice that this "feature" is in effect. Just that the onedrive daemon is gonna be syncing changes to these folders to the cloud. They will only notice this "feature" when they get a notification saying that their cloud storage is running out of space to sell them a subscription to expanded storage space.

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

They will only notice this "feature" when they get a notification saying that their cloud storage is running out of space to sell them a subscription to expanded storage space.

Exactly my experience.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Yep.

That "OneDrive" shit is like so many things techbro: creepy, intrusive, deceptive, and doesn't respect consent. kombucha-disgust

[–] shath@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago
[–] foxontherocks@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

IMO the app Everything is necessary if you want to search through your files on Windows 11. Typing in the name of a program I know I have and the first item being "web search" drove me nuts.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Typing in the name of a program I know I have and the first item being “web search” drove me nuts.

Haven't used Microsoft in a while, what the fuck?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's honestly shockingly bad.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

yeah that shit was my primary way of navigating tbh, windows key, type the first few letters of the program I want, enter key. To the point where I kept doing it on Linux

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

It sends all your search keystrokes to bing. You have to disable it in regedit or group policy editor.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

I just use PowerToys Run. Works very well and it's FOSS

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Everything is incredibly useful, however, let me further recommend everything toolbar. It allows for even easier integration into Windows 10/11. The standalone "everything" is relegated to the little notifications area in the bottom right (whatever that's called. And no I don't care enough to look it up).

I've just started using Linux as my daily OS for non-gaming purposes. MX Linux specifically. It's Debian with some minimal packages added with the idea being speed and low resource usage from the OS. I was using antiX (I think is the name) but it lacked full support for some of the stuff I needed when doing (light) dev stuff. I work with docker engine, re-writing python code, etc. I like MX Linux though. I also like Debian just generally. If you're sick of windows, person who may be reading this, try out Linux. It's come a long way! And there's a billion flavors of it to offer something for anyone.

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Random question, but is there some bit of software like "Windows 11 unshitify" that will just remove ads, AI, and OneDrive?

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

This removes Copilot and telemetry, I don't remember if it has the option to remove onedrive, though.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not that I've found. You can uninstall onedrive and cortana. Ads can be mostly disabled. Copilot can be disabled by editing the registry.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Pro move from microsoft. Making windows 11 usable is just as hard as making Linux usable now.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's called installing a Linux distro (lmao)

But seriously, you can remove a lot of the annoying stuff, like the "Bing!" integration, etc. through regedit commands in command prompt/windows terminal. However, a lot of it gets reinstalled or restored (Microsoft probably calls it "fixing" registry errors...). Plus, there's an inherent level of "danger" involved when do regedits especially via terminal commands if you're unfamiliar with what the commands do.

I just view Windows as a dead OS at this point. It hogs resources like crazy, installs tons of spyware and what I'd call malware, and hasn't really added anything innovative in over a decade. Maybe longer. The windows experience has been basically the same since Windows 7 later updates until now, except it has gotten more cluttered, more ads, just more shit. I dunno what else to say beyond "Consider Linux."

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Group Policy settings with Windows 11 Pro

[–] Wake@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I installed atlasOS on my desktop this weekend. It seems to be working well. I had to reinstall a bunch of drivers, but all in all it was an easy installation. I haven't had any major problems with it yet, but I've only been using it for a couple days.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

There's scripts, but the pattern since Windows 8 is that there's a cat and mouse game between users trying to unshitify Windows and Microsoft reshitifying Windows to make those third party tools no longer work. You pretty much have to constantly monitor those tools, and a lot of times, people eventually burn out, which means that you need to find new tools made by different people.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

We did a while back as well

Apparently, Win 11 managed to make File Browser unstable, so occasionally your right click will stop working when clicking inside a folder; the only quick fix I've found is to just reboot File Browser itself from the task manager. And when I say 'stop working', I mean you'll still be able to right click, but you will be unable to select/use any of the options. Apparently this is a fairly common issue

I don't like Windows 11.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really like how they made a new right-click menu worse.

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[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Yes. Yes. This is it. The cracks are starting to form. Microsoft's policy of eternal backwards support is starting to go past the event horizon. The whole windows explorer thing has been a mess of jumbled legacy garbage since at least XP. And now it's just breaking? We're entering the technological cool zone

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Oh, that explains what was happening. I also regularly get that bug where if I close my lid to sleep the laptop when it's plugged in, it doesn't actually sleep and instead just overheats in my backpack on the drive home.

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

I fucking hate windows, but I have to know windows and macOS for work. I hate windows so much.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

God I'm so glad I switched to Fedora. I'll be putting it on my work laptop soon. I loved Windows 10, you could really to some good modification and it was a lot easier to do so. Then my laptop came with W11 and I can't find shit, it keeps trying to push AI garbo etc on me. Fedora 40 feels as familiar as W10 with wildly more customization. Plug and play just works on pretty much everything.

If I ever work for another place that provides a computer, I may die.

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[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I HATE AUTOMATICALLY SAVING TO ONEDRIVE LET ME SAVE TO THE FUCKING SSD THAT IS LITERALLY PLACED INSIDE OF MY COMPUTER TO STORE THINGS FUCK YOU MICROSOFT STOP RELEASING """"""UPDATES"""""" THAT REMOVE ALL OF THE FUCKING REMAINING GOOD FUNCTIONALITY OF PROGRAMS NO I DON'T WANT TO USE NEW OUTLOOK I WANT TO KEEP MY FUCKING CATEGORIES. I CAN'T EVEN OPEN A GODDAMN EXCEL DOCUMENT WITHOUT YOUR STUPID FUCKING NEW OS SHITTING DOWN ITS LEG FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a folder you can make on the desktop with a long registry-type name that turns into a menu of all commands for win11. Maybe someone here knows the magic folder name. That should allow a certain amount of customization

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's this:

{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh, not working for me. Wonder why.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

locked down work computer mayhaps

or could be it only works in pro/enterprise windows and you're on Home

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I'd go with the former, but I have access to regedit without an admin account so sans-shrug

[–] pnwml@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Same, and besides the crap that Windows comes with (that thankfully my work's group policies disable most of it) they took away my top taskbar. A feature in Windows for as long as I can remember and IMO looked clean and was more functional was taken away by Win 11.

Thankfully at home I can take solace in my Linux and MacOS enviroments. Wish my job would let me just run Debian or Fedora/Red Hat for work. Everything is a web application anyways.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

You have to install so much third-party shit to make it borderline usable.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Little bit of a side note here, but yesterday, I had the pleasure of checking in on my old PCs so I could use one for a server. One of them had windows XP on it, and just seeing the simple home screen and game apps that were on there made me smile. This was the sort of charm that I miss from windows, and that I know will never come back, sadly.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

I remember when XP was considered bloated compared with 2000. Now look where we are now.

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