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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday let stand a decision barring emergency abortions that violate the law in Texas, which has one of the country’s strictest abortion bans. 

Without detailing their reasoning, the justices kept in place a lower court order that said hospitals cannot be required to provide pregnancy terminations that would violate Texas law. 

The Biden administration had asked the justices to throw out the lower court order, arguing that hospitals have to perform abortions in emergency situations under federal law. The administration pointed to the Supreme Court’s action in a similar case from Idaho earlier this year in which the justices narrowly allowed emergency abortions to resume while a lawsuit continues. 

The administration also cited a Texas Supreme Court ruling that said doctors do not have to wait until a woman’s life is in immediate danger to provide an abortion legally. The administration said it brings Texas in line with federal law and means the lower court ruling is not necessary.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Without detailing their reasoning

As if we don't already know.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago

Without detailing their pre-employment of Project 2025 tenets…

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I need more coffee, it took me a moment to figure out what that headline actually meant.

They're allowing (lets stand) not allowing (barring) something that goes against (violate) the thing that's not allowed (ban)

[–] Ghostie21@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically the supreme Court is allowing Texas to ban abortions. This ruling barrs, prevents, an exception to that ban.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Like I said, I understand the headline. My point is it's poorly worded.

[–] abrake@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the title could have easily just been: "Supreme Court upholds ban on emergency abortions in Texas" and it would be way clearer

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I see a writing career in your future

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Me too - that was poorly worded.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The US supreme banana court is a terrorist organization.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I call them the American Mullahs. We all have to follow their pronouncements and there's fuck all we can do to get rid of them until they die.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There’s a lot we can do about it, actually. We can expand the court, we can get guillotines, we can disband their institution.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

There is also a legal construct to impeach them. However, the other branches of the government would have to be capable of doing anything.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

And when are you planning to lead this revolution? Where and when does the mob gather?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 months ago

Stochastic terrorism will probably eventually lead to one of these justices being murdered. I won't be happy about further destabilization, but these conservatives are doing a lot of harm. I won't mourn their passing, even if it's explosive.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago

For that you’d need popular opinion on your side. Currently, it’s not. So, I think we should attempt to persuade as many people as possible to vote to dismantle the Christian hegemony.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

There’s a lot we can do about it, actually.

I'll be interested when that is actually being done, and it has an effect.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Now I know why we kept Guantanamo Bay around.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What happened to SCOTUS not stirring things up less than a month before the election? I'm actually glad they did this, as it will motivate a lot of people to vote DEM.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

RBG must be rolling in her grave over what's happened to her beloved court.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 45 points 2 months ago

She was a great justice, and not retiring was the greatest mistake of her career. Anyone doing Zombie RBG for Hallowe'en?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's more than little bit her fault. She should have stepped down when she had the chance. She was WAY too old to be on that court. She died at EIGHTY SEVEN years old.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Lawyer and author Linda Hirshman believed that, in the lead-up to the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Ginsburg was waiting for candidate Hillary Clinton to beat candidate Donald Trump before retiring, because Clinton would nominate a more liberal successor for her than Obama would, or so that her successor could be nominated by the first female president. After Trump's victory in 2016 and the election of a Republican Senate, she would have had to wait until at least 2021 for a Democrat to be president, but died in office in September 2020 at age 87. Source

Seems she may have meant to retire but waited too long to do so.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

Barbarism.

That's what it is. Simple barbarism.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Supreme Court is currently illegitimate

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 2 months ago

Does it jeopardize the safety of women? Yes? Good, that’s what we wanted.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So we need to create a new underground rail road for women. Let's get women and families out of these areas. Red states don't deserve them. Kindness always wins

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Texas actually made it punishable to help a woman leave the state to get an abortion.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Well, that's why this would be an underground railroad. If it was legal there wouldn't be any need to hide it.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Multiple normal states have already passed laws that protect women from any persecution for laws restricting their bodily freedoms. Mine included. And Ya they can try to take the women back but theres no way to tell why a woman left. It's way easier to move a willing person over someone who is surrounded by a supportive community. I'd imagine this organization would help LGBTQ+ people escape as well.

[–] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Man history really repeats itself. Civil war 2.0 is on the horizon if the pattern keeps up

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'd do it still. Fuck 'em.

Edit: Just to be clear, there is a very strong argument for those laws being illegal. Nothing says a pregnant woman can't visit another state, so why the fuck would leaving the state mean she can't get an abortion when the state she's visiting says it's 100% legal?

This whole stupid ploy by the GOP is utter bullshit. Women are not things, yet under these laws they are being commoditized and dehumanized into objects meant to be controlled by local laws, and the shortsighted people enforcing those laws.

I gatta hand it to Putin... He is doing a fanatic job dividing this once strong and united county. His boy Trump really paid off.

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

So be good at it.

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Taking a moment to shout out Elevated Access. Its a charity full of private pilots and support staff who started gathering in response after RvW was repealed, in an effort to provide women with free flights from red states to blue states. I donated a hefty amount (for me) after we sold our house.

Now theyve expanded their services to trans people seeking care as well!

Love them, sad that they have to exist, but organizations like them give me hope for the future. It reminds me that no matter how bad things get, people will keep fighting.

https://www.elevatedaccess.org/

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I assume that's part of the conservative goal due to how the senate works. They're gerrymandering the shit out of house seats and hoping for a liberal flight so they can control government with their ever shrinking minority.

[–] AliasVortex@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Red states wondering where all the entwives went...

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Liberal flight is the only way they'll learn. Even more so when they flee to neighboring rational states. Additionally with women regardless of location lean left. Outside of having check points in and out of red states, and know all women's current pregnancy status. Enough women will leave to the point their male to female ratio is too out of balance and their populations years down the road.

[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is it turns the swing states into guaranteed wins in the short term, and the census isn't for another 6 years to balance house seats to match the populations.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I didn't say leave swing states... And even so, pregnancy is 9 month not six years. No single individual should have to carry that burden.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, now they can just make arbitrary decisions without explaining themselves? So much for our democracy.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They always could. And they're not elected, so it's nothing to do with democracy.

But they only issue opinions, they've never tried to enforce anything. Andrew Jackson famously ignored their decision in 1832, and nothing happened.

It's really just another aspect of our society being built on trust and respect. And that trust and respect has been exploited and eroded in the past few decades.

Remember, government only exists by the consent of the governed.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Andrew Jackson famously ignored their decision in 1832, and nothing happened.

Even genocidal asshole racist clocks are right twice a day, or something.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I look forward to stacking the court.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hate this phrasing. It’s not stacking the court. It’s fixing perceived political bias in the court back to neutral where it belongs.

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or just fix the problem at its source, and disallow judges from holding a political party.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The entire reason that they're appointed positions in the first place was to prevent just that. The actual problem is that these are lifetime appointments with no way to remove them. What we really need is some damn term limits.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Biden will get to it one of these days!

[–] ChildOfTama@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

Exactly. Like, who do you think has been in charge? It's never going to happen because they want to campaign on it forever.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Horrific: This will get people killed.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Women are already dying.

[–] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

The good thing about climate change is it gives no fucks about their feelings, and their little Christian Caliphate won't survive long.