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Hi comrades, want to give you all an informal update on the discussions around the site's misogyny problems that've been happening over the last several days. I wanna make sure you know that the admin/mod team has seen all of that discourse and we've been actively discussing solutions in the matrix mod chat. We're taking this shit very seriously and acknowledge that we haven't used a heavy enough hand on misogynistic rhetoric. As some of you saw we nuked that cheating thread from a couple weeks ago and handed out temp bans to the most egregious offenders. Idk how that was allowed to run it's course but we apologize for that oversight. We're going to do better.

We've come up with some ideas for how to improve this part of the site culture and we want to get suggestions from y'all as well, since the alarm was sounded on this by our beautiful c/traa posters to begin with. Our ideas so far include:

  1. A zero-tolerance policy towards any even remotely misogynistic/patriarchal posts or comments, as too much has slipped through the cracks on that, establishing a clear protocol for bans for violating rules against misogyny, and ideally tracking repeat offenders in a way that makes deciding a course of action easy when they reoffend.

  2. Uphold TC69 thought by starting up a book club (and hopefully more to follow) on feminist theory and encouraging mass participation, particularly from the he/him's on the site. "The Will to Change" by bell hooks has been suggested by multiple people as a great starting point but please feel free to suggest any other works.

  3. Relaunching /c/menby with a trusted educated mod team and a specific focus on countering mainstream narratives about masculinity, relationships and sex that breed reactionary, patriarchal attitudes

  4. Encouraging [namely femme] participation in /c/womenby and taking steps to revitalize that sub as an excellent source of discussion on feminism and intersectionality

  5. Holding another mod drive to get more folks into mod positions in our communities who can help weed out reactionary attitudes

  6. Encouraging users to use the report button often on any post that seems even remotely sus, with the promise that no one's going to be punished for "report abuse" for reporting posts in obvious good faith

Please let me know your thoughts on the above or any other ideas you have for making the site better, safer and more inclusive for our femme comrades. Once we've fully hammered out plans and updated policy we plan to make an announcement post highlighting these changes for the whole userbase. Thank you all for being here and being who you are feminism trans-heart

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[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Count me as another interested in the reading group, lately I feel like I've been too careless with how I talk about issues surrounding women.

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[–] poopedmypants@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago (14 children)

While we're at it, can we also ban loss: the longest running miscarriage meme?

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (10 children)

yes, hadn't thought about it that way but it's been thoroughly taken out of context as a meme. The "funny" is the clash of the subject matter and the webcomic format.

We then forget the actual people who go through this experience, i'm not sure if a CW would be enough if we would continue using the meme

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[–] belligerentkitten@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago (11 children)

in continuation of my previous comment about people asking to be educated in this thread, specifically over the cheating thread. previous comment here. i realised i forgot to add this earlier

i genuinely find it kinda disturbing that people who presumably consider themselves feminists, in a very leftist space like this, need to have this explained to them. yeah it's much better to ask (in the right context, not this thread) than not to know. but i can't help see it as a significant failure in empathising with women and others marginalised by patriarchy, and understanding how the violence of patriarchy affects our existence. so maybe you need to work on developing that empathy, and i mean this regardless of the gender of the posters in question. people of any gender can make that mistake.

in the context of the cheating thread, the question is not about whether cheating is okay, or whether the husband deserved to know. yeah, if you're gonna be monogamous that's a commitment you should take seriously like any other you make in a relationship. but it has nothing to do with that, not really. the question is,

violence against womendoes the woman in the thread deserve to be a victim of domestic violence, abused, or murdered? because intervening in a relationship you know nothing about has a very real chance of making that a reality. that is the reality of living under patriarchy.
that supeceeds any concern about the ethics of cheating.

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[–] AmericaHaterSexHaver@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I think it would have been funnier to have a bot do a temp ban of 1 day for literally every user that doesnt have a femme pronoun set on their profile

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unlimited The Will To Change bookclubs on the hexbear world, fuck yeah. Whole post looks solid at a glance, but particularly

with the promise that no one's going to be punished for "report abuse" for reporting posts in obvious good faith

I am a complete dweeb with an inability to read tone and never hit the Report button without sweating profusely first, so I really dig this.

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[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

again, the only time "australia" stays winning is when we completely miss what sounds like some absolutely atrocious posting

all these points sound pretty good and more than fair. any cis dudes (which I am) taking issue with this or any similar actions, and anyone who receives a mere temp ban over these rules and gets mad instead of taking time to self-crit, should probably fucking heem themselves

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[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (12 children)

third time's the charm on c/menby i guess.

good overall but these gendercomms need posters, and posters need content and i don't know where they'll get it: recurring womens' issues stuff is mostly transmisogyny and doom about christofascists regression while recurring mens' issues stuff is ???

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Maybe this is too complicated, but I like the idea of a formal process for people to educate themselves and self crit. Maybe first time an offender catches a temp ban and needs to reflect and post upon returning identifying what unexamined biases led them into error in the first place? Just a thought

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I missed the cheating thread, just read some of this one and through the modlog, and it seems...so easy not to be like this. I'm both dissapointed that this even happened, and happy to be somewhere that gives a shit enough to go hard once it did.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

It is remarkably easy to not be misogynistic

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[–] pooh@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

Fantastic post and it's really heartening to see such a positive response to it meow-hug

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago
  1. Uphold TC69 thought by starting up a book club (and hopefully more to follow) on feminist theory and encouraging mass participation, particularly from the he/him's on the site. "The Will to Change" by bell hooks has been suggested by multiple people as a great starting point but please feel free to suggest any other works.

Audiobook available on TankieTube here

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (53 children)

Just so as I am clear. What was the discourse that was going off rails so I know what kinda stuff to avoid doing in the future.

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[–] Lenins_Cat_Reincarnated@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Be afraid, he/hims biden-harbinger

These ideas sound solid

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

thank you for all your efforts Care-Comrade

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

very cool and based cat-trans

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