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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 hours ago

Killing 50% of your gut bacteria is a big nothing.

These things reproduce on the timescale of hours.

I kill 90% of my sourdough starter every time I feed it, and it bounces back the same day.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 81 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

That would imply that 50 percent of the snapped people's biomes remained behind. All of the produce in the grocery stores would be covered in an airborne mist of E. coli, and snapped surgeons that were mid-operation would give their patients staph infections, assuming the suriviving surgery team was able to stablize and close them up before they died anyway. Neat.

Also when those snapped people returned with the half of their biomes that also got snapped, you would get a sequel to the diarrhea. Diarrhea 2: Electric Boogapoo.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

There were zero reports I've heard from any TV, movie, or comic reference to the snap of unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap. That suggests the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't consider the unborn as a separate individual until birth.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 hour ago

unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap.

This scenario didn't even enter my head when I posed the question. That's some Stephen King-level imagery though—a snapped mother disappearing only for an amniotic sac to drop in her place.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Following that logic conjoined twins would either both be snapped or neither would.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think the Gauntlet counted any beings that either depended on another to live or supported another to live as all one unit for simplicity's sake.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

Now you got this idea in my head, if it would have been possible to know if the Infinity Gauntlet considered conception, couldn't a species, lets say humans, knowing "the snap" was a possible risk, create massive stores of zygotes kept on ice? Lets say 10 zygotes to every 1 living human. After the snap of "half" that would mean that instead of 50% of humans disappearing it would only have been 2.5%.

Moreover, since every other species would have lost 50% and been in chaos it would have been prime opportunity to conquer other species still in disarray.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You've opened your inbox to a scientific debate that has raged since virology began.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I'm aware ;)

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Finally someone asks the real question. Is there an objective definition to life that Virus may or may not fall under? Or would it depend on Thano's subjective opinion on the matter?

[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

The scientific definition of life changes constantly, but viruses more often than not fall under "not alive."

Throughout, viruses have rarely been considered alive. More than 120 definitions of life exist today, and most require metabolism, a set of chemical reactions that produce energy. Viruses do not metabolize. They also don’t fit some other common criteria. They do not have cells. They cannot reproduce independently. Viruses are inert packages of DNA or RNA that cannot replicate without a host cell.

Source

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

technically viruses aren't alive. They just use cellular machinery to replicate and thats it.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Eh, it's not really that cut and dry. You could debate either way with plenty of evidence, in the end it's really a limit to the semantics of language

Edit: here's a neat article that talks about it

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Thats pretty neat "you cant kill something thats not alive". Can viruses respond to stimuli? We consider bacteria alive but viruses are debated, wheres the line? are enzymes alive? Are prions alive? cool article.

[–] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 29 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

50% of all ≠ 50% per person

[–] xXSirDanglesXx@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Right? Taking even the people who disappeared into account, and their gut biomes, would you not consider them all as part of all life?

If so, there may be some survivors with all of their guy biomes perfectly intact, and others who get unfortunately zilched.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If the 50% are homogeneously spread -and it's implied that it is-, then one may assume 50% per person also applies. Like how he didn't leave 50% of planets alone and purge the rest.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 minutes ago

I would think it's basically a coin flip for each living thing. It's possible, for example, that all humans survive, however the probability is so astronomically small, it's functionally impossible.

Same with gut biome. Even with several billion attempts, the probability that even 60% of any individual's trillion gut microbes get snapped would be essentially functionally impossible.

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure it’s stated, but I thought the planets that had already been purged by Thanos’ armies, like Gamora’s planet and Xandar were spared the snap.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Then I guess so where the microbioms of people whose guts Thanos had already purged.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Not just the bathrooms, but the livingrooms and childrenrooms too.

!(I would have used "kitchenrooms" but I couldn't bring myself to make that kind of joke)!<

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

They were mostly part of the bacteria domain but I slaughtered them like animals.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 23 points 4 hours ago

She makes a compelling argument.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Look, we're in the realm where the guy decided to remove 50% of all life... as a resource conservation attempt.

Lovely movies, but the "guy's a literal death cultist" required way less suspension of disbelief. Jilted incel Thanos pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza or whoever would have been way more timely, too.

But if we're doing it this way... 50% of the plants, algae and plankton would have died too. XKCD MUST have figured out what that'd do to the atmosphere by now, right?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Isn't "an annoyed Aubrey Plaza" redundant?

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza

Can't have your bad guy be that relatable. Everyone would just be cheering against the avengers.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for the head cannon update. now marvels version of death is played by Aubrey plaza and it just fucking works

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

That may not be just head cannon. The Agatha show is kinda hinting at it.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

Even if that were how it worked, which I don't accept, it wouldn't be months, it would be a week or two at most of difficult bathroom time.

The question I want answered is: do half of all the yogurt cups in the grocery store lose all of their culture, or do all of the yogurt cups lose half?

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

I think the intention was sentient life as having Thanos stop the film to explain the terms and conditions of his snap would've impacted the pacing of the film.

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Balance? Fucked up my sour dough starter is what you did Grimace.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Could also be a lot of legless torsos flopping about, as well as torso-less legs, and all sorts of other less-precise halves.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 hours ago

Zebras probably took it the worst.

[–] Paradachshund 2 points 3 hours ago

Wait, are you telling me marvel isn't thought through all the way?

[–] ouRKaoS 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, my corn maze just got really weird...

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

More like in this dissertation

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

distensión dissertatión

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Since we're talking about magic, maybe life that's inside or attached to other life not disappeared by the snap gets a pass.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Then humans would get a pass, since we're attached to our gut biome.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago

But half of all gut biomes would be erased with the people. The numbers already work.