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X's idiocy is doing wonders for Bluesky. (htxt.co.za)
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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

I'm on Bluesky. I have seen a drama increase in followers in the last few days since Twitter let blocked people see content that were blocked from.

It's a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

I had to decide if I was going to Mastodon or Bluesky. I picked Bluesky because after reading Mastodon's integration problems with itself I wanted nothing to do with it. It couldn't scale unless each instance played nice and in the years since it went live they had refused to do that and showed no signs of even moving in that direction.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 49 minutes ago

Is Bluesky federated?

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I remember putting in so much effort into my MySpace page… and then it was replaced by Facebook… and I had to start over. That’s the only reason why people are staying in the shitter…

[–] John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Taking a page out of Valves book.

Doing nothing and let the competition drive customers your way.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Not really what Valve did. Valve kept doing cool things that benefit the customer, while the competition actively drove them away.

I don't follow social media. Is BlueSky feature rich and only getting better?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

The biggest thing that valve did that kept them in everyone's good graces is that steam's core functionality hasn't had any major changes in years. Dare I say, more than a decade.

It's a platform where you buy games, download them, and play them.

In the early days you still had to deal with all the bullshit, including third party launcher installs and crap to get things going, and over time, valve simplified all of that, making it easier than ever to take advantage of the core function of steam: buying, downloading, and playing games.

Literally the only improvement I can absolutely, positively credit them for, is making that entire process, easier, simpler, and quicker, than ever.

Sure, you can chat to people, track achievements, comment on your profile, comment on your friends profiles, buy and sell cosmetics on the market thing, even voice chat and I think they have a way you can stream your game to friends.... Not sure on that last one.

It's like Facebook, FB marketplace, FB messenger, discord, Twitter... And a bunch of other services, all huddled together to make a bastard child with the entire PC video game industry.... That's steam.

But the core mechanic that was always the main reason why steam was great, remains the same.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's a lot of art, cats, and big tiddy cartoons. I haven't found anything too onerous in its UI, the community has a somewhat toxic level of positivity but that's certainly better than the general toxicity of most of the web these days.

[–] atheridis@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the community has a somewhat toxic level of positivity

Could you elaborate?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well if you post something political you'll get a couple dozen replies telling you to "Leave that stuff at the other place".

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

...that sounds amazing. Perhaps I should go investigate Bluesky, heh.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

It's pretty okay. Lots of engagement, also there's something of a 'block early and often' culture that seems to have a way of really reducing the drama and nonsense

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 hours ago

Aw gross tig buddy cartoons yikes.

Can you share those links so I know what sites to avoid?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

At the rate we're going all that will be left on X is EM and his 200 sockpuppets.

[–] No_Support_8363@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Its just an opinion piece, I’d take this with a grain of salt

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

This user is a troll FYI.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 26 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

This isn't necessarily true. Just because their architecture is harder and not a simple server host does not strip away its decentralization.

They have decentralized the following:

  • App access (can build your own or show openProto posts in your platform

  • Algorithms

  • Relay (backend albeit rumored to be expensive)

  • More if you consider the domain name hosting stuff and media storage control. Also moderation is planned to be decentralized.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't the only thing that really matters decentralised control?

Open protocols and APIs seem pretty meaningless to me if there's a single point of control for the brand.

If everyone migrates to bluesky and then bluesky says "of we're not doing that open thing anymore because of this new embiggened thing we're doing" everyone will still be on bluesky.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Open protocols and APIs seem pretty meaningless to me if there's a single point of control for the brand.

You'd need to expand on this more for me to understand you. Yes there's a single point of control from a moderation standpoint (labeler), as there is on Lemmy instances. But anyone can host their own ATProto relays and the Bluesky relay will federate with each other automatically.

If everyone migrates to bluesky and then bluesky says "of we're not doing that open thing anymore because of this new embiggened thing we're doing" everyone will still be on bluesky.

Not necessarily because the accounts are atProto accounts and you can migrate to another platform(albeit another doesn't exist yet) without data loss. As far as the Bluesky app goes it really just shows you atProto posts and hosts your data (similar to Lemmy instances) they as an entity just also maintain the OSS backend Relay crawler and more.

I really think a lot of people have this perspective that it's not decentralized just because it truly is a lot more complicated due to there being like 5 different moving pieces of decentralization (PDS, Relay, Appview, tbd labeler, algorithm) and they do a great job at obscuring it for regular users which is a great thing. And nobody has really tinkered around and set-up any sites or integrations with it yet. I'm personally trying to get a two way mastodon integration as it's possible but nobody has done a solid implementation (just somewhat gnarly bridges between protocols)

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 0 points 2 hours ago

Oh sure ok. Silly me. I can't wait to be embraced by the utopia of open standards bluesky is going to inspire.

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Better than the burning garbage inferno that is xitter.

[–] helopigs@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

but for how long?

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Doesn't matter, less time on twitter is better, even if bluesky ends up the same way. Something else will be less shit and worth going to then.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

I've been on Bluesky and Mastodon but I'm seeing people pretty happy with how less toxic it is on Bluesky.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I mean at some point elon will buy bluesky, too

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

Just wait until enough sane people have left Twitter; it'll then implode and the fascist Nazi shitheads will migrate.

They don't want an echo chamber- they want to be able to shout their slurs and right-wing bullshit at you while you can't respond. It's exactly why places like Voat and that shitty T_D knockoff crashed. Once the ratio of right-wingers to non-right-wingers on Twitter hits a critical amount, they'll start looking for other places to infest.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait

Dude. It's been 2 years. The people who were going to leave because of Elon already left.

I'm not saying the current twitter userbase 100% fully believe in his views, but I am saying that they're not leaving the platform over it.

Either they don't know about bluesky/mastodon, or they don't care enough to leave.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Uhh, the very existence of this article indicates you're wrong. Elon removed the block feature and even more users left; how can you say that "the people who were going to leave because of Elon have already left"? Certainly the group who disliked Elon on ideological grounds did, but there are plenty of other users who are leaving because they're finally deciding the changes Elon is making removes any value they see in remaining on Twitter.

[–] Corvid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

At least Blue Sky supports community block lists. You can block every nazi with the click of a button

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Dude. Isn't truth worth billions?

I guess you're mostly right, but the exception is that they need one safe space in which to congratulate each other and wank about NFTs and what not.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You mean Trump's Twitter clone? Depends on how you define "worth." The total stock valuation is worth that much, but that's because stocks are largely bullshit priced based on how buyers feel. Someone keeps buying the stock, so the price reflects that.

If you're talking about the company itself, it's not worth dick. They have a six or seven digit revenue compared to eight or nine digit losses- there is absolutely no way the stock price represents the "true" value of the company. Given that Trump owns 60% of the shares it's absolutely certain that someone is using it as a way to funnel money to Trump outside of campaign finance laws.

Also, they don't have that many users.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're dead right that the company isn't worth anything in a traditional sense.

However, the existence of truth social directly contradicts your claim that they don't want an echo chamber.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

A daily active user count of under 80,000 is utterly meaningless for a social media site.

The right-wing chuds aren't flocking to Truth Social because they can't "own the libs" there. That's what I mean when I say they don't want an echo chamber.

[–] MapleWanderer@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah bro I wish they would keep to their own echochambers so they can become more and more radicalised and end up causing even more harm in the long run rather than at least having some if minimal exposure to normal fucking people /s

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 122 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

we've been seeing these "twitter's in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!" headlines for how many years now?

yet people refuse to just delete it

i can't wait for the day i can go a full 24 hours without twitter shit showing up on every feed

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I feel like I'm the only person who never signed up for Twitter.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Many people have deleted it. There just Right wing trolls and bots on that platform

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 26 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I deleted Twitter as soon as Space Karen took over.

However, my friends and so many people I follow on other platforms still link their Twitter profiles. For some there needs to be something solid to make a real and consistent migration. I was overly hopeful that Threads (yes, another evil) would have buried Twitter.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Threads stood as much chance as Google Plus had against Facebook.

Zuckerfucker using a somewhat similar strategy to artificially boost Threads membership (login with instagram once, you can't delete your threads account without also deleting the instagram one) speaks volumes.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 22 points 13 hours ago

Glad to see people leaving X. I look forward to it’s end.

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