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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can get a two dollar raise...

Well it's better than the FUCKING CONCENTRATION CAMP I'd get from the other guy

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah except the concentration camps come with free room and board.*

*Charges for the room and board will be deducted from your earnings as a slave.

[–] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

$15/hr works out to be about 30k/yr. That's not enough to live on. We need a $30 minimum wage. It needs to be indexed to both inflation as well as congressional salary. If they get a raise, everyone gets a raise.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Canadian but same problem here. Long term we need UBI worldwide if we plan on ever moving forward as a species.

Short term we need benefits for those less fortunate keyed to inflation at a bare minimum. In Ontario people with disabilities are paid below the poverty line. It's disgusting.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that fight for 15 was in 2016. We are way past that fight needs to be fucking 25 to 30. But watch every single fucking Republican will vote against any increases of minimum wage. 7.25 is a fucking joke and law makers should be fucking ashame of themselves.

Actually any of them vote no on a raise should have all their money seized and made to live on minimum wage for 5 years.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Law makers should be making 7.25 an hour, and only when they are on the floor.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Why not pay everyone fairly instead of incentivizing further corruption through bribery? I'm definitely not going to dispute that they should be paid for the quality and quantity of results generated in terms of legislation...

IMO government work should be volunteer, but you get your clothes, food, and living expenses paid for our of a set budget. You take no salary and accept no bribes, you live in "Government City". Essentially your finances go null entropy while in office. You do a good job? Public likes you? Private sector likes you? You're top of the list for top paying jobs when you step down.

But only AFTER you do the good work we need leaders to do for us.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All of the Representative jobs used to be part time. ie People had real jobs that earned their living, and they also did their government work on top of that. And that was when travel took forever.

In other words, one of the primary reasons we are at this point today, is because far too many politicians realized they could simply bilk the State, while doing fuckall for careers spanning 30-40-50 YEARS.

If we take President Biden as an example, the man was elected to the US Senate in 1972! And there are many such examples.

And what's been the outcome? A better democratic process? No. Higher quality of life for citizens? No. More competitive American goods in the Intl marketplace? No.

So what are we getting for our dollars? And why would we want these fossils (regardless of Party) to remain? They're clearly not serving American interests.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

And while we're at it, we need to improve and standardize how we measure inflation. Big screen TVs getting cheaper doesn't matter to most people.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

What the fuck is with that horrible picture jesus CHRIST

[–] match@pawb.social 35 points 3 days ago

fight for 15 years late

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 91 points 3 days ago (4 children)

And note that her wording was "at least $15", so she's signaling openness to doing more than that

[–] grue@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good, because "fight for $15" has been going on so long that the real number to regain parity with what minimum wage used to be is a lot higher than that by now.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

it's $22 now

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[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Wait, doubling it -to- 15 dollars an hour? Holy shit, I knew it was bad, but that is insane. Ours is already starting to feel too low at 17.40 here in Canada, granted that is about the equivalent of around $12.50 USD. So it's lower than what she is proposing, maybe if she manages it, we'll be able to get ours up.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the states have been moving towards 15, but the national minimum wage has been stuck for a few decades. And also yes, 15 is already way too low.

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[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Most states have their own minimum wage laws at this point. Not all of them. So this will help a handful of mostly-red states.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The last place I worked upped their minimum wage to $10 an hour. It certainly wasn't because of benevolence or federal shifts...they slowly realized that when you pay the absolute minimum, you only attract the minimum talent, and most of those positions had very high turnover rates that were costing the company more than it'd be to just raise the starting pay rates.

It was cheaper to pay those positions more money.

Unfortunately in my state where the minimum wage is higher than the federal, many service industry companies refuse to learn that lesson. Or they think 16 cents above minimum wage is enough to attract top tier talent.

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[–] Wiz@midwest.social 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good!

Now also link it to yearly inflation annually in December!

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The number needs to be set to a good value, but this is the most frustrating aspect of this whole song and dance, because there shouldn't even be a question about whether it should track inflation. Just setting another flat value so we can watch it atrophy away is maddening. The whole concept is directly related to the cost of goods, and the people needing this wage are the most impacted by price changes. And since it's supposed to be a floor, you know minimum wage employers aren't going to voluntarily raise wages to track inflation. They'd be paying even less if they were allowed.

Even if the businesses-first majority of politicians try to low-ball the target, there's no legitimate argument for not making it auto-update. Businesses just like to reap the extra exploitation between updates.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Name a more iconic duo than politicians and making promises that rely on the cooperation of other branches of government.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not voting in enough Democrats into Congress to do anything and saying the Democrats didn’t actually want to do anything

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Politicians being bought and sold to the highest bidder of the campaign trail.

[–] Yes_Man@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I'll believe it when I see it. Seems every candidate has promised this for as long as I've been following American politics and no one actually manages it.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Oh.

My minded automatically corrected that as "doubling from 15 to 30". Because that's what it needs to be, at least.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If the house and Senate approve. She can't just do it on her own

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[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I believe all promises that are made within the last 30 days of an election!

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This was literally her supposed signature issue when she was running with Biden.

She didn’t fight for it at all.

[–] abracaDavid 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whaaaaat??

A politician making a bunch of claims right before an election and then never following through on them?

Say it ain't so! Not in my America!

Yeah it's lying season. Both sides are telling us what they think we want to hear.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 13 points 3 days ago

That's great!

Certain burger-flipping former presidents have legal fees to pay and this goes a LONG way to making due.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

Surely we'll get it this time.

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