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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel bad for all 12 people who knowingly wasted their vote on stein, because now they've truly wasted their vote on an incompetent candidate who couldn't even do the very least expected from them and won't even be able to contribute to (and still missing) hitting a meaningful percentage of votes.

The green party is a fucking joke that only exists to be a spoiler party, and shit like this is why I mock the green party. They're fucking clown shoes on the best days.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean it sucks because everyone's vote should be counted, but I also don't really feel bad for Jill fucking Stein.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is her middle name "fucking"? I thought it was "asset".

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Asset is her maiden name. It’s a pretty common name in Russia.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's more likely she's a useful idiot for Russia and an asset to the GOP. But I suppose there's not too much practical difference from our standpoint...

(Incidentally, according to Wikipedia, her actual middle name is Ellen.)

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

Jill Ellen Asset-Stein? I guess it has a ring to it.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their votes will be counted.

First they will count the Trump and Harris votes that actually matter. Then they will quickly tally the rest of the ballots and easily conclude that no other candidate stands a chance, and then they will declare either Trump or Harris the winner.

Splitting the "other" category up into different third party candidates is a waste of effort since all of them will lose, and that outcome can easily be determined by tallying all the ballots not going to Trump or Harris. There are no 2nd or 3rd place winners.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In principle, under a First Past The Post system you can get vote splitting parties and those votes for those representatives should still be counted because if they got more votes than last time and are on an upward trajectory then those candidates can measure how well they're resonating with their voters.

But with the USA's FPTP and electoral college system, I'd agree with you, there's zero point in counting those votes before declaring the winner because ultimately the electoral college comes down to red or blue which is the only thing that matters in US politics.

This is a shame because a private continent like the US could be the greatest tapestry of all flavours of political candidates and ideologies with debate and compromise if it wasn't for:

  1. The electoral college and FPTP making it into a two party system.

  2. The hugely biased news media which has no obligation to report factually and fair.

  3. That both sides (with the Republicans being the one that is objectively worse because of their abhorrent behaviour that's somehow only gotten worse of late) vying for that insider trading perk and getting to control the worlds largest military and therefore dictate history.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I agree it could be useful for the politicians. That's not the purpose of the groups who count votes though. Their goal is to determine who won. They are not there to tell the candidates if they're on an upward trajectory or not.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In my voting booth there was a piece of paper taped up stating that though Jill Stein was on the ballot, votes for her would not be counted. Wish i could remember the actual language.

[–] doubletwist@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Dammit why did I laugh at this. Must be the dad joke quality.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

I’ll count them…

One

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Paperwork matters people.

Of all the fuck ups. Have the convention earlier.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

or do what the democrats did and officially nominate your candidates outside of the convention.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago

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