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This makes 79 felony charges so far

Hush Money case for Stormy Daniel's, a former Playboy model, and a 3rd woman

• 34 felony counts - Falsifying business records in the first degree

Classified Documents Case

• 32 felony counts of willful retention of national defense information in violation of the Espionage Act
• 6 felony counts of obstruction-related crimes
• 2 felony counts of false statements to the FBI
• 1 felony count attempted destruction of evidence

Attempted Coup (January 6th)

• 1 count conspiracy to defraud the United States "by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to obstruct the nation’s process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election"
• 1 count conspiracy to impede the Jan. 6 congressional proceeding
• 1 count conspiracy against the right to vote and to have that vote counted
• 1 count obstruction of, and attempt to obstruct and impede, the certification of the electoral vote

Georgia Election Interference

• Greater than 0 but TBD

There's a very legitimate chance that Donald Trump could be convicted in multiple cases of multiple crimes and still win the presidency.

The implications of that are terrifying.

The proper term is treason.

No one should be above the law. Especially public officials such as the President. We should not set precedent to allow someone to get away with what he has done.

I would say the same about Clinton, Obama, or Biden, had they done the same. This is not about party politics or team sports.

I'll add here again that the judge randomly assigned is Judge Tanya S Chutkan, a 2014 Obama appointee, who ruled against Trump trying to keep his documents secret from investigations, saying "Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President."

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/presidents-are-not-kings-and-plaintiff-is-not-president-federal-judge-rejects-trumps-attempt-to-block-the-national-archives-from-complying-with-jan-6-committee-investigation/

The world is watching America. Send this man to prison.

I really want to see something come of this and I have a sliver of hope that it will, but I'm too tired to get excited about it.

This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 8/1/2023

Washington, D.C. - 4 felonies, January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment <- You Are Here
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

Georgia - Election Interference
Investigation <- You Are Here
2 new grand juries impaneled 7/11/2023.
Indictment - July 11th to September 1st.
(Grand Jury work expected July 31 to Aug. 18)
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

New York State - 34 felonies, Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida - 40 felonies, Federal documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one.

Being a US citizen, it is interesting to observe my social circles reactions to both President Biden and President Trump.

Most of the men I know trend towards being pro Trump and I don't think this will sit well with them. The reason being that I think it is less about what Trump actually does to them, but rather what he represents. Last I checked via wikipedia, Trump has anti trans campaign points for 2024.The trend I notice is that men I knew who grew up going to church feel displaced by their traditional view being eroded by things like LGBT, gender identity questions, and changing of the times in general. While the women I know who even often date these men the opposite; they feel more comfortable being accepting of everyone by default.

Should Trump be convicted, I think it will alienate a group of voters into full disbelief of the existing system. The question is does that matter at all in the grand scheme of things or should these voters feel slighted - will that matter since they have no real recourse or will they simply forget Trump given time.

In preparation for comments on this - please don't try to assign me politically. I'm simply remarking on what I've observed as a citizen when speaking with other adults in my life.

I'm not an American and I read the whole 45 pages indictment. One one hand, because it was highly entertaining to read Agent Oranges tweet in such a serious context, on the other hand because, in a way, this affects the whole world. The defendant was such a horrible (and effective) role model to authoritarian politicians around the globe and I honestly believe the US won't recover from a not-guilty verdict or even worse, a second term of that ape.

But even IF he somehow, miraculously, gets a prison sentence - there is still so much to be done. The whole apparatus that enabled him should face justice. Not only his direct co-conspirators but also republican congressmen & -women that violated their oath to protect your republic from exatly the tyranny that the defendant tried to establish.

But who am I kidding; In reality I am already waiting for the announcement of his second term, the pardoning of each and everyone of his co-conspirators plus a self-pardon (how crazy is that?!) from '47. Thats how much trust I have in your system at this point.

So, if there was a conspiracy to deny voting rights can we file a class action lawsuit?

Real harms have been done to our democracy and everyone is suffering because of it.

Call me when he's actually going to jail.

Bro he keeps getting charged but nothing happens. 🤷‍♂️

I’m more worried than usual, because the GOP is backing him so hard. He’s going to try and delay all verdicts until 2025 by having his lawyers issue motions and objections. If Trump wins, it’s without question he’ll try to pardon himself (and likely fail) or will direct the attorney general to drop all pending cases. We literally could lose American democracy this time around.

He just needs to be thrown in prison and left to rot at this point. Can't believe he is still out and in public let alone running a campaign...

If the political consultant is Mr. Pillow I'm going to die laughing.

Woohoo! May he spend the rest of his days in prison.

Unknown political consultant could be the first informant who might never even be charged.

Rudy offered a proffer not that long ago. If he gave them anything they didn't already have, he's worked out a deal and has flipped. If not, the case is much stronger than people are saying.

They have Eastman's phone, and they took it with zero warning, so they have all his communications.

A former colleague of Jeffrey Clark is cooperating and claims to have turned over hundreds of documents and sat through "many hours of recorded depositions."

Not a good day for Team Trump.

The "he won't face any consequences" crowd is getting just as good at moving goalposts as the MAGA crowd is.

"He won't be investigated".
"He won't be indicted".
"The trial will be delayed indefinitely".
"He won't be convicted".
"He won't actually see any jail time".

Who's side are you guys on anyway?

When does he fly to Russia?

My money is "Unknown political consultant" is Putin.

Ill get the champagne ready

I'm still dumbfounded by the sheer number sycophant and adulator that keeps believing the everchanging nonsense he is peddling.

Despite being proven a liar on a regular basis and destroying the lives of even his closest so called allies and friends.

I just wonder what their daily lives are like to be so gullible and never realising that they are being lied to or being taken advantage of. On the contrary, they insult/trample/lash out against anyone trying to help them or even just trying to understand them.

Well, I have given them all the empathy I could muster (amongst the handful of people I knew).

Lying to more than, let' say, 100 individual (simultaneously to an audience or separately the same lie to different persons) should entail concrete consequence. For example, being confined to their home for a certain amount of weeks/months without access to TV, internet and other means of electronic/immediate information/communication so as to let them simmer in their thoughts for the duration. Whether they are the president of a company/country attempting a subterfuge or a edgy 13 years old trying to impress their classmates.

Having immediate consequence for proven lies would have solved so many past and current problems and impending crisis (from climate change, antivax, cults, PFAS/pesticides to the subprime mortgage fiasco, tobacco/asbestos disinformation, Libor rate, Enron, Theranos, Boeing 737 MAX, Volkswagen emissions, the ongoing cryptocoin/NFT craze, the list is truly endless... ). Small lies eventually leads to bigger and bigger lies until it's too late.

Obviously, some lies are sometime necessary to still perform what most would consider to be in good faith. For example, preparing a surprise birthday party for someone and everyone participating having to lie to keep them in the dark until moment is right to reveal the surprise. Or, parents making stories to reassure their children in a difficult or unexpected situation.

In the majority of those "in good faith" situations, the number of people being lied to are limited to less than 20 individual and usually only for a known limited period of time. Hence, my undocumented 100 person treshold. If one has to convey the same lie to more than 50 people they should rethink whatever they are up to.

... Welp, I got sidetracked again ...

Politician who blatantly lie to get elected would have never been an issue. They can be "mistaken" or "misremembering" until they are proven incorrect. Which they will have to rectify and therefore cannot continue to peddle the same lie or would be locked at home without any means of outside communication for a non trivial amount of time.

The profusion of misinformation will be the downfall of our societies, before even the climate crisis ruins us, if not dealt with in time with the seriousness it requires.

only 320 of 79,704 total federal defendants – fewer than 1% – went to trial and won their cases

Federal prosecutors are patient, because that's what wins cases. I'd bet my left kidney Trump is in jail within 12 months.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/06/11/only-2-of-federal-criminal-defendants-go-to-trial-and-most-who-do-are-found-guilty/

Incoming, "I never met this, Ruby, or maybe you call him Rudy is it?Grola...mani?? Not familiar, okay? I meet a lot of people all of the time, okay? This seems like a SICK individual even... people are actually saying he is also very probably the head of the an-tee-fah secret LGBTQ FBI and he hates trump and he hates YOU. SAD to see it folks."

Meanwhile... [insert the photo of trump motorboating giuliani in drag]