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All from Al-jazeera

  • Syrian opposition fighters say they are entering the capital, Damascus, after seizing control of the city of Homs.
  • The developments mark the biggest challenge to President Bashar al-Assad’s rule since Syria’s civil war began in 2011. Earlier, the Syrian army dismissed claims that al-Assad has left the country.
  • The commander of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, Abu Mohammed al-Julani, says the government’s collapse is near and promises to protect people in areas the group controls.
  • Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Russia issue a joint statement saying the crisis is a “dangerous development” and calling for a political solution.

How do the developments in Syria impact the Middle East?

If indeed Damascus has fallen and if indeed this is the end of al-Assad’s rule, this is a major blow for his ally Iran in the region.

In the past few years, the region has transformed.

We’ve seen the growing power and influence of Iran spread across the region, whether it was in Iraq, in Syria, and in Lebanon as well. They had local allies in these countries and the balance of power was in Iran’s favour.

It’s not just Syria, it’s in Lebanon, too.

Hezbollah, an ally of Iran, has been severely weakened, with its military capabilities degraded in the Israeli bombing campaign that lasted for weeks. The Israelis targeted their military infrastructure [and] their fighters; they destroyed areas where their supporters live, making it very difficult for the group to pick up the pieces. A ceasefire deal is in effect in Lebanon, but in that deal, Hezbollah, in one way or the other, is being told to disarm.

The Israeli military wants to ensure that Hezbollah is unable to re-arm, and in recent days, we’ve seen an intense bombing campaign by the Israelis, not just in Lebanon, but in Syria as well – because the Israeli military does not want Iran to militarily entrench itself in Syria. So this shift in the balance of power – if indeed al-Assad’s rule is now over – is a major blow to Iran but it’s too early to say what comes next for Syria.

Where is President al-Assad?

The Reuters news agency is reporting that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad boarded a plane and left to an unknown destination.

It cited two unnamed senior army officers familiar with the incident.

Earlier on Saturday, the government denied reports that al-Assad had fled Damascus. The state news agency said he remained in Damascus and was carrying out his work from the capital.

The president’s exact whereabouts are unknown, however, and he has reportedly not been seen for days.

Syrian opposition declares ‘start of new era’

The Syrian armed opposition says the end of al-Assad’s rule marks a new chapter in Syria’s history.

“After 50 years of oppression under Baathist rule and 13 years of criminality, tyranny and displacement, and after a long struggle, confronting all sorts of occupation forces, we declare today, December 8, 2024, the end of that dark era and the start of a new era for Syria,” the rebels said in a statement.

Syrian PM extends ‘hand to the opposition’

Prime Minister Mohammad Ghazi al-Jalali says he does not plan on leaving his home and that he wants to ensure that public institutions continue to function.

“I urge all to think rationally and to think about the country,” al-Jalali said.

“We extend our hand to the opposition who have extended their hand and asserted that they will not harm anyone who belongs to this country.”

He also called on citizens to protect public property.

Al-Julani says Syria’s public institutions will remain under ex-PM

The HTS chief says all opposition forces in Damascus are prohibited from taking over public institutions, “which will remain under the supervision of the former prime minister until it is handed over officially”.

“Celebratory gunfire is also prohibited,” al-Julani added in a statement.

The Syrian opposition leader has been signing his statements with his legal name, Ahmed al-Sharaa, in an apparent effort to distance himself from his past ties to al-Qaeda.

Al-Assad’s prime minister said earlier that he will remain in Damascus to oversee state institutions.

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[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 74 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Putin messed up, you can't trust Turkey and Erdogan, they are still a NATO member.

[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Minsk ~~2 3 4~~ 5 will actually work this time :clueless:

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 50 points 1 week ago

he just cant help his neolib origins

[–] Bidentime@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

Imagine getting out played by a former watermelon farmer

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 52 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What does assadist mean like mfers acting like theres an assad strain on marxism or something.

Whats next Putinist????

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They already believe Putinist is a thing.

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

If you don't hate [insert western enemy], like me, an enlightened liberal. Well the only explanation is that you've been "brainwashed". And "brainwashed" people are in cults. So you're clearly a [insert western enemy]-cultist.

[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

Don't give the libs ideas

[–] RangeFourHarry@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goddamn, can’t wait for the blowback episode on this in 10 years

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

It’s a good thing decades don’t happen in weeks these days, else we might not get to enjoy the wait

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago (5 children)

must-go

This time he actually must go

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

We should have c/fallemoji dedicated to the (retired) brave mujaheddin emojis.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Good night sweet prince

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This meme has had a great run

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It lasted long enough to snag Kissinger, it was a good meme

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago

RIP to the meme

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's going to be fun watching HTS betray every single promise over the next year, all while infighting with the Turks who provided all the backing of equipment.

Well, not for anyone in Syria but definitely for me.

[–] Bidentime@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's if Israel doesn't take all of Syria

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Only in their own deranged minds are they strong enough to hold Syria.

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

I can at least take some enjoyment out of the fact that this golden opportunity for Israel appears just as they have already completely expended all of their military capability over the last year.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

HTS and the various rebel orgs are not Hamas or Hezbollah, proved by the fact the minute they met Hezbollah in battle they melted like butter under a blowtorch

A lot of these guys are mercenaries who get off onremoved and looting while pretending they're holy warriors on a mission, they have none of the discipline, ethos, pathos, or public support orgs like Hamas and Hezbollah enjoy in the region

The only force they can defeat are the infamously weak Arab regime conscript armies which are organized under the Arab comprador pattern of army management, which is specifically designed to sabotage the officer corps and experience pool of Arab state armies, so officer coups don't become common

Granted, the Israeli military is so genuinely pathetic that even they may struggle for a minute or two with these salafists

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

If they want to try that particular adventure I'm all for it, because I'd rather invade Afghanistan than try and hold Syria.

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Insane how quickly that happened. There’s rumours that Assad was on a plane that a Russian SU-300 recently shot down, but as far as I know that’s just a rumour.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the Plane going down is true but its not confirmed that was Assad's plane

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Never get into a light aircraft

Never get into any aircraft once you've outlived your usefulness to a major power

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Once you return to the people you're better of getting on the people's bus or rail.

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Something's definitely happened. The Syrian army is definitely capable of defeating HTS in a stand up fight. A fix was in, probably before it started but possibly as late as the advance on Homs.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yhea, all the generals suddenly surrendered. Assad government denied Iranian help. The Russians have been leaving their naval base for a week. So they seem to have been in on it. Deep ties between Russia and Israel. And Assad trusted them too much.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conspiracy-brain time: The west told Russia they'd literally end the world with a direct war against them in Ukraine BUT offered if they let them win in Syria and throw Assad to the wolves they'd let Russia win in Ukraine without getting directly involved by pouring troops over. Russia took this, Syrian military found out or was told, said fuck that. Iranians found out too little too late, tried to put on a brave face and dissuade the extremists with that but couldn't move near quickly enough and as a result their army vanished over the border into Iraq and Assad dipped. Of course Putin would be a fool to take such a deal if it existed given the west's constant back-stabbing even written and signed agreements but he kind of seems like he might be exactly that kind of Charlie Brown fool to the west's Lucy.

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[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Fighting is as much about morale as it is about numbers and equipment. Morale was low and sunk lower after the anti-Assad militants had big successes, things snow balled from there.

All the allies who helped Syria last time are stretched thin by Israel (Iran, Hezbollah), have bigger concerns (Russia), or otherwise 'saw the writing on the wall' given the situation with Syria's other allies (Iraqi militias).

For Israel's part, they've bombed key targets in Syria during the last year.

We live in a dark timeline. The resistance Axis wasn't as strong as we thought and the Israel has proven more ruthless (and uncle Sam has an endless willingness to arm them). It's not over though. It took decades for the Vietnamese to win against the imperialists.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

HTS isn't a roaming group of bandits. They have government offices, modern arms, command and control, and a fleet of drones for recon and anti armour duties.

Afghanistan's army or Iraq's army shouldn't have folded to Al Qaeda/ISIS the way they did either, when even a better equipped force is going to struggle against enough well-armed, highly motivated individuals.

IMO what happened here is that the Syrian army has haemorrhaged popular support, weaponry, funding for YEARS especially since the Astana ceasefire. When Jolani (who had been receiving billions in foreign funds and building alliances and preparing for this assault) launched the attack, the first defences were quickly and resolutely overwhelmed.

After that first day of fighting (which even heavy Russian air power couldn't fix), the commanders, generals, and int'l advisers knew this was going to be a fucking bloodbath that was never going to go in their favour and simply retreated at every turn in the hopes that Jolani's forces would give up on their own.

Why fight a war when you know you've not got the political, economic, or military will to win?

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I really hope they scuttled the Su-34s before leaving, cause HTS with modern aircraft is not good for anyone.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i mean whatever they dont have Turkey would give it to them

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

I don't think they will, a strong Syrian Government is the opposite of what they want, which is to de facto occupy the north and genocide the Kurds.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Modern airframes require massive amounts of documentation, training, and maintenance. Even with the first 2 the third is impossible to keep going after a couple of months without parts. N.Yemen had the same issue and they just ripped the AA missiles off for air defence.

Worst case scenario is they're flown over to Ukraine which might be able to source parts for them.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But HTS is going to create a secular constitution biaoqing-copium

No more people randomly being thrown in torture prisons biaoqing-copium

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Democracy just a vibe for libs nowadays, Trump is literally more democratically legitimate than Macron and Zelenskyy.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago
[–] PaX@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Oh fuck wtf

14 years..... for this mypillow-stare

This shit shocked me out of bed-rotting mode

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

Here's how Assad can still win

[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So is it safe to criticise Assad already for being a run of the mill neolib without being called a lib?

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

I think if you detach his government from the military situation then maybe? Who cares. The issue is going to be those who will use this opportunity to punch down on Syria instead of the massive mistakes of Iran and Russia specially.

I'm sure the Russians themselves will be looking to find excuses and they'll push both buttons oh we're stretched on this great war against the west and also lol Ukraine lost this war 2 years ago, Kursk was nothing to worry about etc.

Also you should be aware you'll be repeating much of the same discourse of those who will ignore the Palestinians from now on because you know Assad bad actualy.

[–] TerribleHands@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't really have a problem with criticism against him, but how exactly is he a 'neolib'?

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't he oversee a lot of privatisation?

May be incorrect

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

The US probably bribed a lot of people to make this happen.

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Everything only gets worse

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How the fuck did that happen, that war started in 2011 and suddenly something like that and in the time of decreasing power of USA?

I hope Assad never ever believe a word of those fuckers because if they get him he's dead.

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