You shouldn't be touching any handles upon exiting a bathroom.
The door should be push to exit, so you can open it by pushing with your elbow.
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You shouldn't be touching any handles upon exiting a bathroom.
The door should be push to exit, so you can open it by pushing with your elbow.
I prefer airport style bathroom entry and exits .... there is no door, just a walkway that gives privacy to the entry so that you can't see inside from the hallway.
That would be ideal. I've also seen a few with weirdly discrete foot pedals. I like that idea, although the ones I've encountered haven't exactly nailed the design.
I just use a paper towel to grab the handle (if there’s no foot pedal). What’s annoying is when there’s no trash can near the door to toss the paper towel while exiting.
Out of idle curiosity about your username, I'd like to ask.
Dune, cryptography, or both?
I'm a Dune fan and work in security, so I'd say both!
That might not be up to fire standards demanding doors in the hallway to be opened to the inside of the room.
Is that a thing?
Feels like something door closers make irrelevant.
You'd think fire code would require exit always be push, because that makes evacuating smoother.
If you have a bunch of people wanting to go through a door, you do not want them the be pull.
Even while orderly, requiring a crowd to step back to provide the space for the doors to open is not ideal.
I imagine it's because bathrooms have no point of egress, so the ability to block the bathroom door from the outside (intentionally or not) needs to be avoided at all costs for safety reasons.
I'm pretty sure there's regulations against that, so you're not pushing a door into a random passer by as you're exiting the bathroom.
The foot hook handle thing is my preferred method.
I would bet good money that both door handles are equally filthy, by nature of it being a school. Kids are walking talking germ incubators. We all are, but kids especially. And that's before we even get to the kids who are intentionally malicious little bastards -- I guarantee you, in some school districts, with some kids, signs like these would just be asking for an aspiring Poo-casso to smear their shit on the door handles.
The bottom one might be dirtier, with kids specifically wanting to “soil” it because that is “so funny”. And the group that does wash their hands don’t want to touch “the dirty one”.
I would argue that the bottom would be dirtier, not because of kids reflex to be contrarian, but because human nature pushes people to prioritize themselves even at the cost of society. They may not wash THEIR hands, but they are not going to touch other dirty peoples handle.
I'd put good money on your take.
If they’re going to break the rule about washing hands they’re not going to follow the door handle one either.
I'll just lick both handles to be safe
Here's an idea:
The sinks should be outside the bathroom.
That way, you can wash your hands after touching the dirty door, and everyone in the hallway can see if you don't wash your hands.
Are the doors even necessary? Just put a sharp left turn tiny hallway for privacy, blocks out everything but sound - most public bathrooms have them already
blocks out everything but sound
You've never heard the sounds my coworker makes on the toilet.
I still don't want to touch a handle where it's guaranteed that people who just took a shit without washing their hands have touched, even if I'm about to wash my hands right after.
We should just all use those foot handles. Solves pretty much everything, but why are they so rare?
That...makes sense to me. Not only would you need one set of sinks, you wouldn't need to go into the shit and piss room if you just want to wash your hands.
I recall there was a story from Predictably Irrational where the experimenters were trying to figure out how to get participants to avoid double-dipping tortilla chips.
Along with a control condition, they tried setting up a sign that said "NO DOUBLE DIPPING", and I think they also tried paying people or getting them to promise not to double dip, stuff like that.
The thing they found most successful was to set up two bowls of dip: One labeled "For double-dipping", and one "Not for double-dipping".
They supposed that once they had to do a physical action where they sorted themselves according to "what kind of person they are", they wanted all of their visible actions to be consistent with that.
Interesting experiment but who the fuck doesn't just eat the whole chip at once?
Did he stutter?
"Restaurant style" chips are enormous. Far too big to shove in your mouth at once.
Double dippers, apparently.
It's been a long time but I recall a study featured on Freakonomics where a national park tried different signs to get people to not steal rocks. Signs like, "Taking rocks hurts the ecosystem" and "Taking rocks is a crime."
The only effective one was something along the lines of, "A million people visit this park every year and leave things alone." Suggesting that telling people to do the right thing is less effective than peer pressure.
I still wouldn't trust either handle. People are assholes.
There are some folk who I went to school with I can see rubbing their assholes on the handles because "fuck you, you're a sign not a cop". I'm sure there's a name for that disorder.
Oppositional Defiance Disorder, I have a coworker like this. It's exhausting.
Literally scrolling while pooping at work and someone came in, did their thing and left without hand washing. These idiots walk among us.
there should be a guy in every bathroom who body slams you into the pavement if you don’t wash your hands for 20 seconds with ~~warm~~ soap and water
This problem is solved by having paper towels (air dryers suck) and placing the paper towel trash bin next to the door so that you can use your hand-full of towels as a barrier between the handle and throw the towels away as you leave.
I don't believe there is good in human nature, so I'm going to remain grossed out by both handles.
They should put 110V through the top one.
Someone who's too fuckin lazy to wash their hands isn't gonna take the time to read anything in public.
first off, the clean handle should be on top. the nasty handle shouldn't drip onto the clean handle.
second, as you are leaving a public bathroom, reach under your shirt/jacket (hopefully something untucked. ) use the fabric as a barrier for your hand and grab the handle with the front of the shirt/jacket.
If you are lucky enough to have a paper towel dispenser, dry your hands with one, use it to open the door, then prop it open with a foot while you throw away the paper towel
But now you have dry urine smeared over your sleeves.
Better than on my hands, but...
Paper towel, always. No paper towels? That's why you enter the bathroom with a napkin in your pocket.
I saw shit smeared on a bathroom door the other day, hand dryers only, no paper towels, it was so gross.
Which handle is for opening the door with my (washed) prehensile pp?
At least I know the top one is sanitized.