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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm sure everybody gets the reference, but Junior is referring to reports that Hamas used hang gliders or paragliders during their attack on Israel.

So, he's just trying to use a dog whistle here to try to remind Republicans that we should all be afraid of brown people. However, dog whistles are supposed to be subtle, so that the people who it isn't targeted for, won't even hear it. He's so inept at public speaking that he can't even do that correctly.

On a personal level, I live in Texas. I really don't want to have a gun, but if I did buy one, it wouldn't be out of fear of brown people paragliding into my house. It would be out of fear of white fascist Republicans breaking down my front door.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Less a dog whistle and more of a tuba in this case, I think.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cmhickman358@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago

Chihuahua Sousaphone

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if I did buy one, it wouldn't be out of fear of brown people paragliding into my house. It would be out of fear of white fascist Republicans breaking down my front door.

As a Portland resident, that's a logical fear:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/proud-boys-oath-keepers-antifa-portland-violence-spreading-1224762/

Members of any at risk group should consider being armed. The police aren't there to protect you and there have been court cases which ruled they have no obligation to do so.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525280/

"In a 7–2 opinion, the Supreme Court ruled that due process principles did not create a constitutional right to police protection, despite the existence of a court-issued restraining order."

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One thing I know, every liberal gun owner is a marksman. They've trained with their firearms and know them fifty times better than a Conservative does.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

7.62-MM M14 with a walnut stock. Trained with it during my military days but I didn't take it on deployment. I was stuck with the M16A2 in Afghanistan and M4 carbine in Iraq.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I had someone not believe me when I told them they still issued M16s in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Wikipedia told me they switched to the M4 entirely!?!?"

Yeah, okay bud, just like they're going to be using nothing but the M5 in another decade.

Or two...

Or three.

I bet you could get issued a M1 under the right circumstances.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

People who don't know how deep military warehouses go. Wouldn't surprise me if there weren't some WWI field phones floating around somewhere.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Nice! Mine's a Henry in .45-70 Government. Good for most big game in North America. Marlin briefly had theirs rated for T-Rex as a cross promo for Jurassic World. LOL.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

you are goddamn right

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes Don Jr is right that we should have guns generally, but more because of what his dad's cult is doing.

Don't ever believe that any gun control laws will disarm those guys. It's way too easy to hide guns and ammo, and there are hundreds of millions of them all over the country.

So it's best to have it and not need it, rather than needing it and not having it. Because they are going to have it anyway.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Don’t ever believe that any gun control laws will disarm those guys.

Even if this is true, counterintuitively, gun control laws will still work. We've seen this exact thing in Australia. (Which admittedly is easier to do because it's an island)

What happens is that guns become more rare, and yes, only bad guys and cops have access to guns, however, because guns are rare, it's much harder even for bad guys to get more guns. Guns become much more valuable, and as they're valuable, bad guys will become reluctant to use them unless the reward is great. If you take a $1000 gun to rob $50 from a 7-11, and if you get caught, you're losing $950. You're way better off just using a knife or something, and then you can sell the gun.

So even if only bad guys have guns, guns are still used in fewer crimes. Everybody gets safer, little by little. Eventually, they're only going to use guns for crimes with huge payoffs. And they were going to do that, anyways, even if there weren't gun control laws.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless having it puts you at higher risk of suicide, in which case maybe don't have it.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You’re more likely to injury or kill yourself or family than an intruder, so there’s that too.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It would be out of fear of white fascist Republicans breaking down my front door.

Legitimate thing to fear. And what are you going to do, call the cops? You'll just have more of them.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It would be out of fear of white fascist Republicans breaking down my front door.

Who would then execute you on sight. Even if you managed to shoot your way out, sooner or later they'll find you and kill you.

Guns don't work against state violence. By the time you need them, you've already lost.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a Texan, a lot of the fascist republicans you run into day to day are not in government. Not federal, not state. Terrified irrational morons who only see through a veil of hate are a real concern.

They are in your trailer parks and rural areas. In Texas, it would take me less than an hour to go from downtown to rural. In fact, its a straight shot down the interstate.

Rifles won't stop a tank. Good luck hitting a bomber. The government, especially in the US, is too numerous and too well equipped. Jim Bob and his inbred son Rusty are much more of a concern and manageable with a rifle.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Look at his cute little "I-do-manual-labor" costume.

[–] cvozbosher@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Borrowed it from his gardener

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Also being in front of a bunch of books, like he knows how to read.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Everything these people do and say is a performance, gun stuff included

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The man who shot a bunch of my coworkers had this exact attitude... He was buying guns and "high capacity" magazines because the government was going to be making them illegal. Kinda wish they had, what little it might have done.

[–] Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where did this happen, if you don't mind saying. Just would like to read up on the incident.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

It’s really sad that “guy shoots up office, kills coworkers with rifle” doesn’t really narrow anything down in the US.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd rather not - sorry. This bit didn't really make it into the press though as it wasn't really part of his stated motive or the motive argued in court by the prosecution. But it was something he didn't exactly hide.

[–] Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's cool, don't share any information you are not comfortable with. Thank you for the reply.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Against an airborne target like hypothetical imaginary Hamas paragliders, I think a shotgun with a light choke would probably be a little more suitable.

I know! We can hire Dick Cheyney to stand guard for us. He's great at peppering things with birdshot.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer Hollywood style flaming arrows!

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your flaming arrows will be no match for my crack squad of trained attack pigeons.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Squad of crack-trained pigeons?

[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My attack hamsters will take over the situation.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, that's the flock the bum up the road has.

[–] Kandorr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Trained squad of crack pigeons?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When near year’s batch of once-in-100-years extreme weather events comes, you can shoot at the tornado. It won’t stop it, but it will give you a sense of power in your final moments.

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[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

What a complete fucking moron.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’re they all poisoned or something? Is there something in their drinking water that’s making every member of that family get dumber and dumber every day?

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

they've always been this way

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please Jesus may the blinds be lifted from eyes of the underclasses, that they might no longer be grifted on.

The nice people are waiting with hugs.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe stop calling poor people underclass, that would help I think. One thing I hate is liberal elitism, it bothers me as a left leaning poor person. I'm not an idiot cause I'm poor

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[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Paragliders are entering peoples homes? How big are their doors?

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Good luck getting out of the trees.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This message brought to you by the Gun Lobby.

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