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Assume you never get tired of the pleasure in heaven, and you never get used to the torture in hell.

Lmao this is such a stupid scenario, but I love putting incomprehensibly large numbers in absurd contexts like this. Like yeah, no brainer that infinity is vastly incomprehsibly largererer than Graham's number, of course nothing is worth going to hell that long for.

But uh, Graham's numbers is a lot of years. For all intents and purposes it's just never coming compared to the characteristic time scale of human thought.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

However large Graham's Number is, infinity is, by definition, infinitely larger. In such a context, there is ultimately no real difference between Graham's Number of years and 1 second. Gimme oblivion.

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would goto Heaven and then form a coalition of Japenese teenagers to overthrow God.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Heaven forever gave me midnight panics as a kid. Living forever doesn't actually feel that bad in the context of how much life can be spent napping or glazing over while watching a movie. So like, I'd take nothingness over hell, but that would really deprive fuckers like Raegan over the suffering they earned.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

Omg someone else who actually felt the crushing horror of what eternity means.

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Everything you did in heaven would be tainted by the thought it's all temporary and turning into eventual eternal torture

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Ironically the Augustinian position of all things we love. Their transient nature means that love is always tainted by the fear of losing it.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I feel like a significant portion of my heaven experience would be spent worrying about going to hell in a billion billion years

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I get it, that's kind of my every waking moment writ large since truly understanding my mortality

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

cuddle feel that, shit's been haunting me since childhood

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

When asked how he wished to be buried,

he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall

so wild animals could feast on his body.

When asked if he minded this,

he said,“Not at all, as long as you provide me

with a stick to chase the creatures away!”

When asked how he could use the stick

since he would lack awareness,

he replied “If I lack awareness,

then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?”

~ Diogenes of Sinope

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

I frankly don't think it's healthy to even think about such things.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

put me down for non existence.

I drove through western NY once and buddy, no way I am doing that for infinity years.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like if I got hit by a truck this evening and went into non-existence I'd be fine with it. I've kinda been that way my entire life. Life fucking sucks.

Probably the non-existence one

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the former option for sure my only true fear deep down is not existing anymore aaaa

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

An interesting-ish and anti-verifiable thought about nonexistence is that since we cannot perceive nonexistence or time "while" nonexistent, and all things necessarily change... stretching that then any kind of law or logic or universal pattern that decrees we are dead may also eventually change and we just reappear. No matter the infinite infinities that may need to pass. And not just "an exact duplicate of ourself", but "ourself".

Which is to say: isekai is, alas, inevitable.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

And with strange aeons, even Death may die.

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Somehow missed this when you posted it earlier but I want say I've had the same thought and it's how I feel too.

That's kind of the thing about infinity, right? Who's to say that the universe is not cyclical if it never ends? The coming heat death, and the arrow of time in general, is a statistical process, not a fundamental one. After enough time, anything physically possible will happen, including the sudden reversal of entropy and therefore death.

And since we cannot perceive nonexistance, one must always exist from ones own perspective! The eternity before I'm born is the only reference frame I have for the supposed eternity after death, but that itself spontanseously ended with my birth, why can't it happen again? And if it does, it should be instantly after death from my perspective, too.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

But it feels like nothing at all. :)

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd probably say yes now, but I'd probably regret it in g~124~ years

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Nah you're good, everything ends after heat death anyway

[–] Blep@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

No afterlife

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Eh, non-existence is far more terrifying to me than torture

I'd take it

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it hazbin hotel version of heaven and hell?

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Can't say we know enough about Hazbin heaven to say either way yet.

And Hazbin Hell sucks, especially since the souls of human sinners are confined to Pride ring and that's basically ancapistan. But I gotta say, it's still the comfiest depiction of hell I've ever seen.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I already work retail I am in hell already so I would take it.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing after

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

TREE(n) years in heaven, where n is a number of your choosing, but TREE(n+1) years in hell.