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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The article doesn't seem to mention it, but last week they accidentally sent out a mandatory evacuation order to all 10 million phones: https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/emergency-evacuation-alert-sent-to-residents-across-la-county/

I wonder how much that will dampen the effect of the real order if it comes. Colorado sends emergency alerts for so much- missing children and geriatrics, violence against cops anywhere in the state- that there's a lot of notification fatigue when we get the handful of wildfire alerts each year.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago

It's one of the fundamental problems of outrage-driven engagement and for profit news. Eventually people burn out and tune out. Then something important happens and people are ambivalent. Some people wallow in it and go bananas (see: fox News chuds) but the majority of people don't like being harangued by spectacle every goddamn day.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This is really sad. But we're also seeing what happens when you let corporations go unchecked and exacerbate climate change.

An entire city burning to the ground should be a radicalizing point, but I'm afraid the media is going to do everything they can to divert from the climate question to things like firefighter funding, DEI etc.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Trump is making it about water rights and complaining that farmers didn’t get enough water because of ecological regulations.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So the solution is more deregulation? Amazing...

[–] Pavlichenko_Fan_Club@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As always. Also the governor of California already promised to waive environmental review so they could 'rebuild faster'--seriously ironic liberal brainrot.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Environmental reviews of the sort like exposure to hazards, such as, to take an example at random, wildfires? Is Los Angeles urban development about to end up on a 10-year cycle?

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I could fill a few pages with names of contractors who would love nothing more than that.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

new gold rush honestly

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its crazy because every right winger is talking about LA running out of water which is obviously untrue. Most angelenos (except maybe those in actively byrning or burnt areas) still has clean water coming from their tap. And more importantly, we all see water drop after water drop on the TV coverage. The actual crews fighting the fire havent indicated any trouble getting water and there are dozens of reservoirs available.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but if the almond trees had more water they wouldn’t be as dry (in January) and wouldn’t have caught flame. That’s trump’s argument lmao, it’s so stupid it’s unbelievable. The fire didn’t spread cross farms it spread across forest, suburban housing developments and rough hills

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yea that's what I don't get a out his whole "I told Newsom to sweep the leaves from the forests" because I thought this fire started in the urban area

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

Lib media at least acknowledges it's climate change but their solution is to vote blue harder next time. Meanwhile the chuds go over world events with a fine tooth comb to find a minority to scapegoat. Both are not helpful in any way.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Not just a city, but the richest city in the richest state of the richest country

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 53 points 6 months ago (4 children)

So i guess the plan is to annex Canada because we are abandoning the southern US.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just get all the people and push them up there

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Bringing in the Scoops from Soylent Green to herd us all north

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Probably why he has been saber ratling

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

If the annexation of Canada happens I figure that will be the unofficial reasoning for it. A climate-lebensraum if you will

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There was a conversation about this here a few months ago. Seriously what happens when these places get too hot to live in? If it turns into 145° temperatures in Las Vegas, for example, will we just abandon the city, turning it into a ghost town? Even while inside, you can't stay cool because of the power consumption. You can't just be blaring the AC 24/7 in every building and every car. Not to mention, you can't cool the outside of cars or buildings, so those could overheat. How do you get food and water to these places? I suppose they could build high speed rail going in and out of the city, but you still run into the same problems of having to keep the entire thing refrigerated.

Now multiply this for hundreds of cities, towns, and shotgun shacks across the southern US. Will the entire state of Texas have to leave because nighttime temperatures are over 150°? Just miles and miles of Death Valley conditions spread out across the South.

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention how things will be worse south of the border going into Mexico and South America.

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

The first warning sign will be insurance companies pulling out of entire regions, like what happened in California.

Might be survivable if people adapted and figured out ways to conserve water and energy and build better, more resiliant infrastructure, but that's not going to happen in this country.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ. And to think this is only the worst wildfire, yet.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 6 months ago

welcome to the new normal

[–] poppy_apocalypse@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The scary thing is that it's January.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Gonna be another one of those years when centuries happen, huh? back-to-me

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

We still have what I presume to be a long hot dry summer coming up.

I can't wait for smoke season /s

[–] someone@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

When I first heard about all these new wildfires cropping up, I automatically assumed it was in Australia. I was shocked it was California in midwinter.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I suppose it's a small mercy that THE BIG ONE turned out to be a wildfire and not an earthquake, since that would've killed far more people

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

THE BIG ONE

So far aubrey-happy

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago
[–] xj9@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

There are no evacuation warnings for the majority of LA county, see for yourself: https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not to be a "source?" lib, but where did you read that all of LA was warned to be ready to evacuate?

It wasn't in the article, as far as I could tell, and I haven't followed its growth but LA is so massive I can't imagine it's large enough yet to take over LA as a whole to warrant that warning.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

oh I took it straight from the article, looks like they changed it, here it is in the archive

https://archive.ph/Lbjvp

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah, no worries! They do that. Thanks for clarifying!

I was just curious because that would be a fucking massive exodus.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't think they mean all at once, but rather that all of the area of LA is under potential threat.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That makes sense. It also makes sense that they'd probably say that out of an abundance of caution rather than thinking this is actually happening soon.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago

that seems like the most likely scenario