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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 87 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The right wing mindset is extremely hostile to soft power or even just preventative methods in general. A general sort of example of the phenomenon: them refusing vaccines but saying you should nuke your body with horse paste if you get sick. Or refusing to pay for infrastructure until a bridge collapses. You apply that mindset to the boring work of maintaining an empire and this is what you get.

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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 76 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The latest Trashfuture touched on this through the lens of how most people (I.e. Not leftists, or anyone who pays attention) sees this: they see all of this as the government spending money on the undeserving, that is, anyone who's not white in the US, and anyone who's not American for the rest of the world.

They don't care about the reality of these programs, or their contribution to their comfortable imperial core lives, because all that matters is what feels right, and it feels that telling people to overthrow their government is the weak way of exerting control, when they can just drop in with their military and invade, the macho-way of geopolitics.

They won't learn from history because there's no history in their mind, only vibes and chsuvinism.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 70 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a dipshit of himself in full view of the world

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago

heartbreaking

I agree with Musk, unfortunately. I would be super owned if I stopped receiving my Sorosbucks. If he defunds RFE then it's joever for communism.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago

Radio Free Asia too, hopefully.

The capitalist class becoming too stupid to sustain its own existence may be an even more lethal contradiction than class contradictions.

[–] frankfurt_schoolgirl@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Please please please have Doge audit the Pentagon. Please, president Trump.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 weeks ago

Nah they're only dismantling soft power making the inevitable chaos only solvable by bombs. It's the "when you only have a hammer" thing but because you've intentionally thrown the rest of your tools in the lake.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 66 points 3 weeks ago

Decades of US soft power being undone by a billionaire for likes on twitter catgirl-happy

Europe is free now

"But still didn't forgive us for it"

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly does the US really need to actively fund propaganda outlets anymore? I feel like Amerikkkans are so propagandized now they'll just spawn this kind of content on their own, for free.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 66 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

RFE isn't for Americans, it's meant to suppress leftists in Eastern Europe and the Balkans. It's one of the tools in the Gladio/Color Revolutions playbook meant to give the imperialists an edge in the region. The other tools are fascist goons, police violence, and NATO military actions.

Edit: I guess I missed the biggest and most obvious tool: financial control and IMF structural adjustment programs.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think they would rather directly support fascist/neolib orgs intead of using a 3rd party like USAID, like how elon went to that Adf event

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Which is very stupid because tight wingers are flighty and unreliable. AfD is friends with musk now, but who knows if it's going to last. The benefits of VoA or RFA is that you have direct editorial control, it helps you coordinate with other intelligence operations in the region.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Yes they really do need to fund these things. The average person is not politically active nor do they care. Propaganda is incredibly important to fostering an environment where radicalization is difficult.

We shall see how it turns out. But my personal opinion is destroying the propaganda arm of the fascist US is the most important precursor to actually dismantling US hegemony.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Weren’t these started as propaganda against the USSR during/after the Cold War?

Is this one of those situations where the “worst person you know does something good?”

Not trying to be snarky, honestly curious.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No yes that's exactly what happened here, he's dismantling the soft power the US has in Europe because he thinks they don't need it anymore. And TBH, maybe fascists in Europe are strong enough now that it won't immediately backfire, but it's probably true that eventually this is going to look very, very bad for them when communists have enough popular support and no one is around to spread right wing propaganda.

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think you are underestimating the grip the right has on the media here and will continue to have. RFE is superfluous when there are other, better media outlets to spread their shit, and not just traditional press. In any case the absence of US influence will just leave a niche for the local bourgeois media.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Yes of course, fascists will continue to have their cultural hegemony that they inherited from US efforts to suppress the left. What I'm suggesting is that this can only be a permanent condition as a result of external force, and the steady state condition is a tendency toward class consciousness as material conditions worsen. It's like there was a magnet that was holding a pendulum all the way to the right, but now the magnet has released and the pendulum will swing to the left (over several years, of course, not immediately). It'll swing back, dialectics, but having a weaker local enemy is always preferable to having an untouchable international enemy.

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[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah this is probably objectively good for hindering the US' propaganda efforts. It's absurd that anyone would call these outlets radical or leftist haha. Voice of America though was actually started in 1942 to counter Nazi propaganda, allegedly, but I wouldn't be surprised if they intended it to also help steer people away from the Soviet messaging at the time. It's funding was increased throughout the Cold War.

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly they're only used by Wikipedia editors to argue that the DPRK killed 8 gazillion babies last year. That and fed left groups on Twitter that argue that China isn't socialist (see all off Xinjiang is in prison!).

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No normal people listens to US state media but the journalists making the news reporting normal people actually consume often do and will quote US state media, thereby laundering their views to a much wider audience.

If you're a lib journalist with a tight deadline you're not going to do your own research on Korea when you can just copy-paste some sensationalist bullshit from RFA that already aligns with your worldview.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

this

The vast majority of bullshit DPRK news articles source back to Radio Free Asia. The Radio Liberty/VoA orgs are a cornerstone of the Consent manufacturing machine.

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Trump and Musk aren't against the US Empire, but they don't like how US Imperialism is sugarcoated with "bringing Democracy", "human rights", "freedom of speech" and the "plight of Women/Uyghurs/LGBT etc"... This is "leftism" to them. Their version of US Imperialism is, we'll take your oil and minerals.

Trump has always been straight forward US Imperialism.

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shouldn't we need to make plenty of twitter accounts to egg him on? "Good job sire, that'll teach dem wokes. Now the woke military!"

I'm just imagining some country creating mass bot accounts to do precisely that lmaooo

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol @ VOA being described as radical left when it's only listened to by chud psychos.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

Communism is when the government does stuff.

VOA is something that is done 100% by the government.

Therefore VOA is radical far left woke communism.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Chat, who is your favorite radical leftist? Mine is definitely J Edgar Hoover

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

I really like Ronald Raegan, the color of his party was red so he was def an extreme leftist anarchist-maoist

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago

Lmao too stupid to live America is cooked

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reverse Dullesification has been bouncing around in my head since I first encountered it

[–] Gamer_time@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What's Dullesification in the first place? never heard of it

[–] picklemeister@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

the development of all of the soft power methods to go with the overt and covert “hard power” methods in a comprehensive strategy of anti-communism and amerikkka primacy. Everything from operation bloodstone to gladio to voa to usaid and the blend of state dept and intelligence agency policy and strategy to subordinate “the west” to the aims of an anti-communist and capital friendly order that upholds the ‘proper order of things’ aka superimperialism

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

bloodstone

I don't think setting out OSS handlers to guide Baltic Nazis into lining leftists against a wall and shooting them is soft power not-built-for-this

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

It is when you’re comparing it to the US military going in and saying “We are the US military invading your country” and lining leftists up against the wall themselves

[–] picklemeister@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

no that would fall under the “overt and covert hard power”. what made the success of the Dulles bros approach was the marriage of all these methods as mutually supportive and directed to the same ends

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the dulles brothers were largely responsible for shaping the anti-left infrastructure during the cold war, they were horrible murderous guys but they understood what they were doing, unlike the failsons of today

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago

zoidberg saluting 1

excellent comrade musk, destroy these woke DEI postneomarxist media!

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

People like Trump and Musk don't understand what USAID actually does, they just see it as giving money to "shithole countries", brown people and do-nothing wokesters. They truly believe the free market maintains itself and US hegemony is a result of merit. They are not ideological warriors like Allan Dulles, but instead rubes who landed on the top of the pyramid.
They are like a crow (being generous here) stuck inside a T-34, able to knock whichever lever they wish about, able to understand it makes the machine move, maybe even somewhat comprehending the destruction it brings, but never realising why it does what it does or which lever does what or that the engine needs oil, the gears grease, the tower shells.

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[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

Radio free Asia next please! Such a woke DEI infested hive mind of anti-Americans

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago
[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

heartbreaking destroying the U.S propaganda arm

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

i think the tech billionaires have genuinely convinced themselves they'll be more powerful if they dismantle the western states. which... xi-shining good luck with that lol...

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yes, but but there is a plan. He isn't accidentally dismantling empire. He has to be doing it for a reason. It is it to turn the tools of empire inward? I don't think we have a clear idea. Is it to give up europe as lost and to refocus onto softer targets in the global south? Maybe try try to create a stable fascist block in the new world and to just let china have the old?

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Look what he did to Twitter. I don't think he has the slightest clue of what he's doing and is likely a pawn of someone else playing him. Maybe a bit of XI, maybe a bit of Theil. His companies constantly manage him by playing to his ego. Dude's a billionaire puppet.

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[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He’s just a drugged up narcissistic moron who has never had a good idea in his life. All his so-called achievements were just him weaseling his way into people’s companies and stealing them and taking the credit. I don’t think he has a secret plan. I think he just believes his own hype.

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[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

thats the question isnt it? Either he is stupid or the US doesn't need it anymore to tie europe to themselves because they got something more cost-efficient planned.

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

as long as we lose Radio Farda and VoA Persia im happy.

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