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Ask just about anybody, and they'll tell you that new cars are too expensive. In the wake of tariffs shaking the auto industry and with the Trump administration pledging to kill the federal EV incentive, that situation isn't looking to get better soon, especially for anyone wanting something battery-powered. Changing that overly spendy status quo is going to take something radical, and it's hard to get more radical than what Slate Auto has planned.

Meet the Slate Truck, a sub-$20,000 (after federal incentives) electric vehicle that enters production next year. It only seats two yet has a bed big enough to hold a sheet of plywood. It only does 150 miles on a charge, only comes in gray, and the only way to listen to music while driving is if you bring along your phone and a Bluetooth speaker. It is the bare minimum of what a modern car can be, and yet it's taken three years of development to get to this point.

But this is more than bargain-basement motoring. Slate is presenting its truck as minimalist design with DIY purpose, an attempt to not just go cheap but to create a new category of vehicle with a huge focus on personalization. That design also enables a low-cost approach to manufacturing that has caught the eye of major investors, reportedly including Jeff Bezos. It's been engineered and will be manufactured in America, but is this extreme simplification too much for American consumers?

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[–] tfm@europe.pub 7 points 22 hours ago

And backed by Bezos

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

So they finally made a car for minimalists.

[–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The specs on the website don't have the number one statistic I care about: Can I, a 6'3" (190cm) man, fit comfortably inside without being forced to drive with my knees? It says it is 69" (175cm) tall which is not a promising sign. The website does not have warranty information yet either, the next most important thing for me. The fact it is mostly made in America, implies that it will probably break within a year which makes the price irrelevant. The lack of infotainment is a huge plus, I don't understand how those things are even legal. A laptop dock would be much more beneficial in my opinion. One which can easily slide out of sight, like when I'm actually driving and not just watching porn while stuck in a traffic jam. The option for hand crank windows pretty cool, so I can re-enact that one scene from the movie The Game if I want.

After really taking a deep look at the customization options I can't help but wonder, Am I dressing a Barbie or looking for a vehicle? Can I get the icon in cornflower blue? Is there an option to make the entire vehicle look like a 90's geocities page, including gifs? I spent who knows how long looking at the options and went to see what the price would be. Well guess what? I can't! Not without reserving one for $50. Even then I have no indication I'll be told the price. Sorry but I don't care what options there are, I'm not gonna pay one dollar, let alone fifty, if I can't see what the final price will be, even just an estimate would be nice. Am I supposed to trust the word of random news articles that it's actually under $20k with an asterisk? I don't care if the $50 is refundable. Any company that requires I speak to someone for the price of their product, is a company that is lying about the price of their product.

Great idea and almost a step in the right direction for cars (in my opinion). However, I can all but guarantee this would be a bad car for me to buy, because car salepeople and car engineers simply can't help but take any good idea and load it up with as much enshittification as they possibly can stuff in and then try to get the customer to pay more for heaps of shit on top, which they call icing but is really just shit, all while lying about every possible thing they can.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

I wouldn't question interior space based on the height of the car. I'm also 6'3" and have comfortably driven Geo Metros and Mini Coopers while being cramped in 4Runners and Tacomas

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Love it. No connection to the internet except when you choose to, through your phone. Analog controls. Frickin roll up windows!

My only beef with the current concept is the bolt on body panels and other parts. Too easy to steal. Could replace those bolts with security bolts, if they aren't already, but that just discourages the casuals.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My only beef with the current concept is the bolt on body panels and other parts. Too easy to steal.

I mean the same could be said about Jeep Bronco. Although these just being plastic means they're probably not worth stealing...

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I laughed haha

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Hell yeah. I actually emailed them and they confirmed that there's no data collection at all. That's extremely rare for any new car these days.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 31 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No paint because you're injection molding body panels? Sounds good.

No stamping? How are you getting away with that? Are they just outsourcing the stamping for frame parts? There's no way this thing doesn't require stamped frame components.

Tbh, this feels like vaporware. I'll believe it when I see them actually being delivered.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the non-stamping is the body panels. They would still have to have a stamped metal frame to meet the S rating wouldn't they?

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

They make it sound like not having stamping is helping them by not requiring expensive machines and a factory with a high ceiling. I'm betting they're outsourcing the stamping. I'm also betting that they won't ever deliver a truck.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My first thought as well. Feeding on the anti-Tesla hype to gain some clout and probably funding.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 36 points 2 days ago (6 children)

A basic usable truck sounds good to me, but the price seems high for bare bones and the range seems equally bare bones.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know how the purchasing power differs across the pond but converting dollarydoos to pounds that sounds like a bargain for a new functional EV

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess but I saw a used Volt on sale for under $4,000 and this is from a brand I've never heard of.

Time will tell if it's a good price or not I suppose, if it's a really solid truck then I guess it's close enough to a fair price.

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[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I generally like the idea of smartphones as replacement for radio/nav but only if no specific app is required to do anything important with the car itself. Because then you are dependent on the manufacturer keeping this app up to date.

But the price for this thing is too high when incentives are excluded

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

this strikes me as a fascinating idea--with a couple of eyebrow-raising backers--that is probably going to flop spectacularly because it's too minimalistic to the point of just being cheapskate

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They look like excellent fleet trucks.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago
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[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 16 points 2 days ago

That design also enables a low-cost approach to manufacturing that has caught the eye of major investors, reportedly including Jeff Bezos. It's been engineered and will be manufactured in America, but is this extreme simplification too much for American consumers?

I'm more worried about the cheapness and corner cutting.

[–] Wigglet@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

So like a fully plastic Pickman?

[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

My two immediate concerns would be whether it comes with AC and is there an AWD option. Both of those could be deal breakers towards the borders. I guess they're not absolute deal breakers (we bounced around AZ in a '71 Datsun pickup that had about the same specs as this a kid) but they certainly would be huge QOL improvements as options.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I found the specs a bit interesting. 52.7 kWh battery and a curb weight of 3,600 lbs is nearly identical to the Chevy Bolt, but this only has a range of 150 miles instead of 240. Is it really that much less efficient? The only thing I can think of is the aerodynamics, but that's a 40% difference.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

EV truck vs. car? 40% difference sounds about right, even an aerodynamic truck isn't much better than an aerodynamic brick

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, the "(after federal incentives)" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. The basic option for the 2023 Bolt comes out to about $20K after federal incentives, but you get way more range and a bunch of those "luxury" features this is missing. Considering how cheap low-end smart phones are, I have a hard time imagining that infotainment systems actually add more than 1-2% of the cost of the vehicle. Feels more like a type of virtue signal than a real cost-saving measure.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your vehicle not being yet another surveillance vector can be a selling point.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, I guess, but that's only a selling point to the small number of people without smartphones, which isn't a large enough group to make it a sound business strategy.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

As I understand it, the aerodynamics can be no joke on EVs. The acceleration is very efficient, there's very efficient regenerative braking, and an object in motion just continues in motion until there's a force. That means drag is pretty much where your whole battery charge goes. (I'm not sure how much tire flexing accounts for exactly)

For an example off the top of my head, the Arrow concept car manages 500km by not having side mirrors. Compare that to an ICE engine which wastes most of the fuel energy as heat, but to a widely varying degree depending on design and implemented energy recovery features.

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