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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We shall cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the geese of war.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Whatever farm animal of war Lana.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Translation:

Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Greenland is part of Denmark, so attacking it ought to trigger NATO Article 5. I'm pretty sure NATO ex-US is capable of putting up a fight too, even if the 50k people who live in Greenland themselves could not.

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[–] GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not Canadian, but it's seems obvious to me Canada would definitely put up a fight

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean, all of the might of United States military had trouble with the Afghani insurgents. Now, just imagine Canadian insurgents who speak the same language, look exactly like you, and know your history better than you do. No city in the continental United States will be safe.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

look exactly like you

There are subtle differences if you know what you’re looking for.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] puckpuckpuckow@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

I am not your buddy, guy!

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nevermind that there'd be about 70% of the population sympathetic to their situation. That's a recipe for a lot of citizens sabotaging and/or helping them instead of us.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Sympathetic?

We share the same enemy, and most of the world has for centuries, time to watch the dixiecrats pay.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything you said, and the longest un defended border in the world. Imagine if the Taliban could drive to major US cities.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine if 95% of the Taliban lived within 100 miles of that boarder, too lol

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

And spoke perfect English and were undistinguishable from US citizens on sight. And numbered 40 million.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A lot of Americans would also put up a fight on the side of Canadians

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd be happy to join a Canadian foreign legion. I view protecting Canada from foreign aggression my patriotic duty as a fellow human being, and neighbor.

Besides, once upon a time I swore an oath to protect my country from threats foreign and domestic, so I am honor bound to fight alongside Canada against the biggest threat the US has ever faced.

I'm not sure how many Americans would join me, or how receptive Canadians would even be to a bunch of tacticool looking non-professionals with guns showing up and CLAIMING to want to help, but I'm positive there will be americans fighting back. Whether it's on the front lines with guns, or with sabotage in the states, who can say.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in my fifties so I have no illusions about my combat effectiveness, but I took that same oath and I would obey it in the same way for the same reasons. Plus I'm like 75 miles from the border. If the lines moved just a little afterward, I could wind up Canadian anyway.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 23 hours ago

I suspect sabotage would be the best use of most American allies. Pipelines, power lines, railroads, bridges, America has plenty of those just lying around undefended. And many of them are a stiff breeze away from collapsing on their own anyway.

Blowing up or burning down a few might not have much direct impact on America's warfighting capabilities, but forcing the American military to divert huge amounts of manpower to protect all of that would. Not to mention increasing the likely-alreayd-extreme discontent at the government.

And, of course, assassinations when you can manage it. (Ooh, this isn't Reddit, I can say such things without being [ Removed ])

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

Service guarantees citizenship!

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Put up a fight?

Nah, more like encourage our trash to attack, then slide in right behind them.

We'd let the canadians help us give them what they deserve.

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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago

And Trump genuinely doesn't understand that would be war with the EU.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The Geneva Convention is gonna get another page

[–] DBT@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The claim we need it for safety and security is bs considering we have probably more service members there than there are people in Nuuk.

Its all about minerals, which we have no claim to. If Greenland were a territory, the federal government would have full control over the entire thing. US territories are modern day colonies basically

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

Other real (albeit idiotic) reasons might include Putin feeding Trump the idea of the US having control of the newly ice-free Northwest Passage, or just a sheer megalomaniacal desire to secure his legacy via territorial expansion.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 day ago

It'll become more and more important as the north pole melts.

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[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

US could do that, sure.

But I bet it'd quickly find out just how much of its power, safety and bravado is due to being located in a geographically safe and isolated area with no real hostile armies trying to end them from the other side of the border.

Just how much of that willingness to fight comes from invading foreign underdeveloped territories across the sea, with little chance for the fight to make its way back to US cities and US civilians.

Easy to start fights from the comfort of a distant home, sending only military lives into the far away battlefield.

Something Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East can't claim, as they have to contend with potentially bad neighbors due to all sorts of reasons.

Go ahead, poke the bear, FAFO.

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[–] lennee@lemm.ee 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

well, might need to fly some drones into american soldiers then

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

hes using 6600 soldiers for his birthday parade.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every word from this Orange Turd is treason. Their needs to be a trial and he needs to never see the light of day again.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

He also said he's not sure if we need to uphold due process in all situations. I'm willing to concede the point in his case if it means we can hang him tomorrow.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

And y'know what? The US would still lose.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 14 points 1 day ago

Every time I hear this, I think "Ok, that's what his right hand is doing. What he doing with his other hand?"

Read: Isn't the batshit stuff pretty much always a distraction?

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Located between the U.S., Russia and Europe, Greenland is viewed as a strategic position for both economic and defense purposes, with melting sea ice opening up new shipping routes through the Arctic.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shipping from the U.S. to Europe can only be made more inefficient by heading up towards Greenland. The only way it could be more efficient is if the U.S. took over Canada and was trying to directly trade with Russia without Europe being in the way. An attack on Greenland should be seen as an attack on Canada and all of the EU/UK

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

The only way it could be more efficient is if the U.S. took over Canada and was trying to directly trade with Russia without Europe being in the way.

Exactly.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Maybe when he starts WW3 we can call him a nazi without people playing dumb like he isn't

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