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[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 83 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Louis Rossmann is correct: there is no reason to let your printer connect to the internet. They're never going to release an update that makes the printer insanely better or more efficient. It might improve the program & functionality, just slightly? But every time it connects there is a very real possibility they push an update on your purchased goods to fuck you over. It's not worth it.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I totally get it and agree, but does this mean you use an USB cable at all times to print things ?

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago

Either USB connected to one PC which shares it, or just block it's Internet access in the router firewall

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Connecting to the network does not have to mean connecting to the internet. Basically every consumer grade router out there is capable of restricting a device to the local network only. It could reach other devices on the network and the other devices would be able to reach it, but it would still be cut off from the internet.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Its why I put all of mine including the ones at work in the blocked ACL.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

People connect their printers to the internet?

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Never let your printer connect to the internet

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I’ve seen newer printers that won’t work without a cloud connection.

That’s when you return the printer, which hurts the brand with the retailer.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Controversial, but same with your television.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say that's controversial, but it's really just a matter of choosing which platform you think will enshittify slowest.

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Smart TV with no Internet connection + streaming box with Internet connection. Every TV behaves the same way if they all use the same streaming boxes. If a streaming box provider steps out of line, you switch to another vendor or use a media PC.

TVs are forced to just be TVs, to display in the quality you bought them for. Their totally innocent array of hi-sensitivity Big Brother microphones have nowhere to transmit every sound in your living room, etc.

When they eventually start making it illegal or impossible to do that, I'll just wait for my last TV to die and then I don't know what. Maybe take up shuffleboard?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You mean like old school non gamified shuffleboard right? Because right now for a small investment you can play shuffleboard against anyone in the world. Also has instagram plugins, and an AI to encourage or train you.

https://game-volt.com/supercharged-shuffleboard

/s

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, just physical objects with no electricity involved, outside in the fresh air.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago

Sceptre sells non-smart TV still. Unfortunately, only available @ Walmart & Amazon. Really a lesser of two evils situation. Support union-busting or support planned obsolescence and spyware.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

you guys have anything other than TV over IP?

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is my firm belief that any ethical culture should have a legally mandated "no, fuck off" button. You can keep the "no, thanks" or "maybe later" buttons but the "no, fuck off" button must be displayed prominently alongside them.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Hedgelord for president!

[–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm sp glad to be paperless. Printers are a joke.

[–] MacNCheezus 7 points 4 days ago

Thankfully I learned this lesson early in life and I haven’t owned in printer in nearly 20 years.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

My wife INSISTS we have a printer, in case she ever wants to print anything. She never does. It has a scanner. Admittedly, a very nice one. I use the scanner every year at tax time. I suggested we get another smaller, lighter scanner. She says we don't need two scanners. So, for the last 5 years, I have had to lug this 25.7lb behemoth out of the basement to scan like, 6 things, and take it back downstairs. That is all we use it for.

[–] Luccus@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It puts the update on its skin.

[–] MacNCheezus 2 points 2 days ago

Or else it gets blank pages again.

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's why all I have is an old black and white brother printer, because you can't even trust them anymore

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I specifically excluded Brother from my last printer search because I read they were getting precious about toner cartridges. HP was totally in on that as well with ink jet.

I was able to get a laser printer from HP that didn't have enshittified firmware, and that thing is never ever going to be on the network. This was a few years ago. I hope HP is sensitive to their business customers, who would be a large fraction of laser printer buyers. But I don't know how they are these days.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m glad to see the meme creator was smart enough to keep their Printer Gun handy!

[–] MacNCheezus 15 points 3 days ago

I understood that reference.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Forced updates should be illegal.

[–] Probius@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Malware's definition:

Malicious computer software that interferes with normal computer functions or sends personal data about the user to unauthorized parties over the Internet.

Any forced update that increases data collection without consent or intentionally breaks previous functionality being pushed out to millions of people should result in multi-decade prison sentences for cybercrimes.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

100% agree, yet nobody arrested CEOs of neither Samsung nor Apple despite them deliberately applied "updates" to slow down their phones.

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use Linux. Can someone explain this meme to me?

[–] MacNCheezus 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You wouldn’t get it. Just like viruses, DRM, or a girlfriend.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can I have your windows girlfriend

[–] MacNCheezus 1 points 2 days ago

Sorry, she’s not open source.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] MacNCheezus 4 points 4 days ago

But how are you going to produce your TPS reports after this?

[–] Copythis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I work on copiers for a living.

You guys are scaring me!

[–] MacNCheezus 7 points 3 days ago

Username checks out.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

There’s actually two Epson printers currently dumped on the hard waste strip on my walk to the tram stop.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

I like my Epson perfection scanner, it let's me scan my photographic film. That's kinda the opposite of a printer though.