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The Trump adviser is trying to redefine the Constitution in order to carry out his extreme immigration agenda.

The Trump administration continues to subvert the constitutional right to due process to justify its illegal, extrajudicial deportations.

“The right of ‘due process’ is to protect citizens from their government, not to protect foreign trespassers from removal,” wrote deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller on Monday morning. “Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation.”

This is not how the law works. The clause has no specification for citizenship. Miller’s claim has been widely rebuked.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Stephen Miller needs to go away.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if he'll reflect on this when they eventually come for him for being insufficiently Aryan...in the donvict Newspeak, anyone Jewish will be classified as "not a citizen" and Miller will have owned himself.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Everyone should see this. I cannot unsee whatever it is he's trying to do in the back of the bus there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J24ZOiaTvw

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

Nazi fuck boy

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Even if that were true. Not giving people you think are foreigners due process means you deport us citizens without it. But they're brown so that's fine I guess.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Miller is Jewish, so he might want to remember how these things tend to go...

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 36 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

“Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation.”

Even if that were true, a deported person is generally sent back to their country a free (wo)man. Unless the destination country has other business with them, they're free to return to life as usual. When you are paying someone else to imprison them, it's not deportation. When you do it without due process, it's a concentration camp.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Precisely. I wish people would stop referring to it as deportation when people are sent to a prison. It's internment

[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 53 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Dude gets pantsed by a Mexican classmate and now we’re here

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 26 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Stephen Miller is absolutely one of the main puppeteers of the dementia riddled sack of trash.

Especially the demonically hateful and completely illegal kidnapping/deletion of innocent humans "policies".

Goebbels reincarnated.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago
[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 64 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

If it acts like a dildo... And it looks like a dildo...

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago

Then you better believe it's trying to fuck you.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Slap it in a condom because anything is a dildo if you’re brave enough.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 57 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

That dude has severe mental issues. He needs massive mental rehabilitation, not a position of power.

[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 43 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Nah he is just the epitome of bigotry. He hates everyone because he is a loser and everyone who has been around him knows it. There is no fixing that.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I dont agree with that. People are simply a product of their environment. Stick him in the mines for twenty years with four hots and a cot and he'll forget all about any of this. He'll just be thinking of the last time he saw the sun.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think everyone could be rehabilitated to a decent person. But sometimes a guillotine is a more expedient and humane solution.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Now that, I agree with. Those who dont like it, dont desecrate the fucken world.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

The rest of his family aren't Nazis, and disowned him.

Miller is a born psychopath. It's biological, and it's incurable. He should be in a cage, away from other people, permanently.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 18 hours ago

We can't fix it but we could probably fix Miller so he can't hurt anyone ever again.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean?

He's clearly a level headed guy. Mentally stable.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not a doctor, but that shit isn't right. From what he is saying to his mannerisms. He sounds like one of my friends that used to be heavy in to ket before they got clean.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

They said "got clean"

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 21 hours ago

No amount of rehab can fix that man.

It's mental illness, grotesque mental disfigurement all the way down in this administration.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well I did NAZI that coming.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If anyone in the administration is definitely a Nazi, it is Miller. It's not even a question. He absolutely lives to victimize minorities and stir up white fear. The whole CRT thing, DEI, all of these anti-"woke" talking points... all his playbook. He is a vile excuse for a human being, the hateful piece of shit.

If this were a movie set in the South in the mid 1800s, he would be the slimiest pettiest most unnecessarily violent whip cracker on the plantation that would have the entire theater cheering when he finally got what was coming to him. And he is making policy in the highest office in the country. Unfortunately, this shit isnt a movie. There is no guarantee that things work out. But, maybe, we will get to cheer someday, and sooner rather than later, I hope.

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago

Beyond the clear use of the word "person" - go ahead and tell me how you know if someone is not an citizen before you rescind your own requirement for due process?

Or, how many citizens should lose due process because you decide to skip it?

If you decide to provide exceptions, you will inevitably have a substantial error rate.

Of course, i suspect that is considered a bonus to these nazis.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 35 points 21 hours ago

We're going to judge you under due process by judging you first without due process.

There's a reason why the law is long and complicated .... because once it becomes a simplified rule of law by a few, all of us are in danger.

[–] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Fascists redefining everything we hold dear until it isn’t recognizable any more.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

It only works if we comply.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 22 hours ago

It's not like it's new either.

I mean the whole Nazi holocaust scheme was basically made legal by denying the jews were fully human. Laws that apply to humans don't apply to subhumans, right?

Similarly, Dubya claimed the Gitmo concentration camp wasn't a violation of the Geneva Convention because the detainees were "enemy combattants" and not prisoners of war.

It's fascism 101, and the US has been practicing it for decades now.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Even the word itself.

The original Fasci Siciliani were poor peasants protesting for basic human, labor, and civil rights. Mussolini co-opted the word in order to ride into power on a populist wave.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasci_Siciliani

My Great Great Grandfather was one of the 18 killed in the Marineo massacre of Jan 3 1894. He didn't want to be a martyr for the cause. His widow managed to escape further persecution with their children to the tenements of lower Manhattan.

My Grandfather was named after him, and I was named after my grandfather.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's fascinating, thank you for sharing.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Thank you for reading and responding. It has become an important part of how I view myself.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

Thank you for sharing. Anyone have a NYT subscription?

SERIOUS AFFAIR IN SICILY; MOB AND SOLDIERY IN FIERCE CONFLICT AT MARINEO. Thirty of the Rioters Killed and Fifty Wounded -- Twelve of the Troops Wounded, but None Killed -- Nine Thousand Persons Parade the Town Shouting Revolution and Making Threats -- More War Ships Arrive at Palermo.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure it says "person" and unless you can somehow prove that they are not a person then they get due process. But this is the USA, we have a record of determining some are not a person.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

They get 3/5 of due process. They get duepro.

[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

He’s just so fucking gross.

[–] Rivalarrival 15 points 23 hours ago

The constitution is to protect the government from the people.

Revoke it at your own peril.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is a real dangerous guy. His hate burns and he has the intelligence to carry it out.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He certainly provides a lot of the brainpower the orange utan doesn't have.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Orangutans are pretty smart. Don't do them dirty like that.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 21 hours ago

keeping in mind that illegal immegrant is any individual citizen or not that they target.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 22 hours ago

making-up shit to fit the narrative is what they do.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 17 hours ago

just like he made up bald head by dying his scalp with hair dye.