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[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 91 points 10 months ago (2 children)

“We recognize that an abortion has two victims: obviously, the unborn child, and the other victim is the woman who’s the birth mother, who probably got talked into abortion by a boyfriend, a friend, a mother, a grandmother, maybe a father,” Huckabee said.

This betrays a staggering misunderstanding of the issue....

If I may present another hypothesis: this isn't a misunderstanding. It's a deliberate lie, a misrepresentation of the real issue to try to hide the fact that they know how sadistic their demands are and they're not willing to be honest about it.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wow they think individuals can't think and decide for themselves based on their own life conditions? Says the party of individual responsibility. No, not like that.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wow they think ~~individuals~~ women can’t think and decide for themselves based on their own life conditions?

FTFY

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No they definitely think students can't think, so they want to change the voting age. Should we cover minorities?

I notice this is common theme in discussions. Right wing pundits often say something like "this guy said this, and all the leftists have believed that every since". As if we can't think about it independently. In every area: evolution, science, politics, policy, etc.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's projection. They swallow most of what their thought leaders say, so of course everyone else must too!

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Women and transgenders. Anyone doing anything they don't like, essentially.

[–] elvith@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

And Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and... uhm let's just say everyone besides white old weathy men.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

It's also straight up misogyny, implying that women can't think for ourselves or make our own decisions

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

According to my family, I've been brainwashed by "the mainstream media". When I asked what that even means, they listed all these conservative news outlets that I don't follow AT ALL. All I could do was laugh. "Where did you hear this?" I asked. You can guess at the answer. You'll probably get it on your first try.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

The GOP should consider

Nope, you lost me right there. That's never going to happen.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

It fits into their worldview that anyone who is left leaning is somehow not a "real" American and that they alone are the rightful stewards of the nation.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


There had been six previous statewide initiatives centered on that question since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, and each of the six had been successful, including in states redder than Ohio.

As the third Republican primary debate was underway Wednesday night, Fox News’s Sean Hannity interviewed former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee about the party’s underperformance on Tuesday.

The video-sharing application, based in China, has become a boogeyman of the right (in particular, though not exclusively), including earning an extended conversation during Wednesday’s Republican primary debate.

This was in response to a question centered on the idea that TikTok is amplifying anti-Israel propaganda, a claim made both by congressional Republicans and, according to a CNN report, by the Biden administration.

As journalist Ryan Broderick noted, this misunderstands the scale and fragmentation of TikTok, a platform that isn’t “based [on] mass appeal snowballing into global virality, but about identifying niches.”

That there were immediate responses on college campuses in the wake of Hamas’s attack in Israel would suggest there were existing belief systems about the region before this alleged TikTok nefariousness came into play.


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[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These think pieces should consider whether or not they are teaching the enemy how to win

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think talking about it and rightfully criticizing the right outweighs the potential danger of hypothetically handing them a playbook. They’ve shown time and time again that they won’t listen to criticism, and they’ve got such an echo chamber that doubling down on this behavior is likely worth more political capital anyway. So what’s left after that is a piece that draws attention to this manipulative behavior, and adds to the body of evidence that these people do not have your best interests in mind and never will. If that convinces even a small number of fence-sitters to vote smarter, then it’s worth it.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read an article that said that when you tell people that their opinion is wrong and explain to them how they are wrong they will tend to double down in their wrongness rather than change their opinions.

However, as little as I think of the average Republican, I believe that there could be outliers who are capable of rational thought and opinion change and I would prefer not to give those exceptional Republicans the opportunity to help revise playbooks that could lead to the further destruction of Western democracy.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You can't change a conservatives mind. You can only try to shame or humiliate them enough with their own positions to keep them from actually voting.

Most conservatives and Republicans would rather not vote than switch parties.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The "brainwashed" thought is a problem for many, mostly at the fringes of a given subject. They believe something so strongly that it seems like it is self evident fact, so how come 51%+ of the country either disagrees or doesn't care? And social media bubbles, news media political differentiation, and the rural/urban divide make it worse because everyone they know, agrees with them too.

So everyone else couldn't possibly be looking at the same objective facts and disagreeing in good faith...they must be...brainwashed?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not sure why you got downvoted. It's a good point

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago

LOL you just owned yourself