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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Russia: Is imperialist settler-colonial regime that conquered and settled while genociding much of native siberian, kamchatka populations etc.

Dessalines: If you criticise Russia you are an imperial colonialist.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

tankie triadists: If you family members were genocided by russia, good. They were nazis.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The devs should be invisible if they want their project to succeed like a California wildfire. This hurts Lemmy's donations.

[–] death@infosec.pub 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not necessarily a bad thing. There are multiple interoperable “threadiverse” platforms already. I like Lemmy currently but I’d happily switch to an alternative, and financially support them, if like the UX and the devs are less toxic.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

i'm really eying piefed as the future of this communication strategy

[–] death@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The current Piefed instances unfortunately don't seem to show what they federate with. I personally would not join an instance which federates with lemmy .ml anymore, for example. But yeah there sure are a lot of options popping up which is great.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I've been looking at Piefed and Mbin long-term. Don't think I'm ready to make the change yet, but when Federation is more reliable, I'll probably make the move to one of them.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

once it has app support and an instance as clearly aligned with my politics as slrpnk.net i'll probably move over

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Interstellar is almost there but it still doesn't have notifications unfortunately. It's also limited to I'm pretty sure only one instance at the moment.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago

Weird how they didn't ban that meme with the map showing Crimea as Ukrainian

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The devs are the biggest problem with lemmy. Sure, there's hexbear and whatever else, but the devs need to be better than most. A sane person sees that kind of post, and they leave before they even give it a chance.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sadly this is very true. And I literally said as much to nutomic directly last week. In the thread on world soliciting donations. Not even a reply. Not serious developers. Just kids with a few coding skills. Who are going to do what they want to do, because they want to. And if you have a problem with that then that's your problem. Not theirs.

[–] tal 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As of this writing, I don't think that any of the viable Threadiverse Lemmy alternatives (mbin, piefed) support native mobile clients via the API.

investigates

Hmm. Apparently that's not correct. Interstellar can handle both mbin and piefed. It's not in F-Droid, though.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interstellar shows up in fdroid when I search for it. So I'm not 100% I may have added another repository.

I say fdroid. I was mistaken. I'm currently using droidify with the Izzy on android repository enabled.

[–] tal 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I needed to do that to get it installed, trying it out right now.

It feels more-responsive then Eternity, and the dev appears to be more active, but I did notice that it doesn't appear to yet support monospaced blockquotes


just colorizes them differently at the moment. Probably some other stuff. Definitely usable, though.

EDIT: Note that I've only used it on a lemmy instance, not mbin or piefed, so I can't speak as to the support there.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Currently I'm using Voyager. No one client has everything I want yet but it's pretty close Interstellar looks wise would be a close second. It works pretty Snappy but it doesn't have user tagging and a few other things that I like.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'm glad to be finally able to share Interstellar which supports Piefed as well as Lemmy and mbin. still work in progress though.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm from Japan. Does this mean I can say “Fuck colonists, fuck tankies!”?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Please do. And don’t forget that most “Tankie” regimes,

Russia, China etc. have large settler colonial histories, especially Russia.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

Done.

Let’s see how long it takes⏱️.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The irony that most tankies are in the bubble.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

They what they are doing. I don't know or understand why but they can't be that delulu IMHO

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

[person from Poland, the Baltics, or Ukraine speaks up]

"No not you"

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the Baltics

Funny you mention that...from the directors cut:

LMAO

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm from the Baltics.

Fuck those guys.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

This. Fucking fellow butthurt belters.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seriously. If they think the US people on Lemmy are anti-Russian (which, they are, in an abstract geopolitical-college-seminar type of way), they have literally never interacted with people of a certain generation from one of the former Soviet republics.

To them it is personal. They will punch you.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm from Finland and I'll gladly say fuck 'em. And if you complain, we're going to have a problem

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pay up, Lemmy, adminning is hard work!

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Or the devs could enjoy their communist utopia of being stuck working for free.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"If you're from this area" MFs when my Australian ass shows up:

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"This is democracy manifest!"

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I watched a video about that guy and his story is crazy.

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[–] tal 11 points 2 weeks ago

looks at map

Greenland and Canada's Arctic Archipelago are presumably going to have to be pulling some double shifts on commenting.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm from South Korea. I hope dessalines would shut up about North Korea anything.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

One of the very first bans I caught on Lemmy was pointing out to some tankie that I actually have family in China, speak the language, and have been there many times, and was therefore more qualified to comment on Chinese politics than some edgy western teenager.

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

lmao, okay goodbye mainstream LGBTQ political power.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

instead of learning from their successes

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

I thought we did. All the good things were implemented by many european and other countries. Some even before communists took over. But they're ignored and bad since they didn't murder millions.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Saw this and was struck by how close the outline looks to a contiguous US map.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
> Hungary is excluded from the list

In general, I do agree that we must learn from the successes of past systems, but we also must learn from their failures, or else we're doomed to repeat them. Issue is, these people that are usually from western countries that like to pretend everything bad Stalin did is fake news by the capitalist class, just like our far-right likes to pretend many things the nazis did are just Stalinist propaganda to make everyone right of Lenin look bad.

Democracy is unironically good, and the main issue is politicians conning their voter base, not that we have the wrong kind of strongmen leaders in position.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I kinda regret donating now lol

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly this is why I did NOT donate. I've been on Lemmy since it was lemmy.ml and holy shit the hate I got. People calling me CIA for posting articles from NPR in a NEWS community. They have a right to believe what they want. Again, that's why I've moved to PieFed Social. Again, power of the Fediverse. If you don't agree with the route the devs are going, either work on your own, or support someone working on an alternative. Maybe it'll create silos, but those silos all work across each other, so not really unless they cut each other off. I'd rather support Rimu though personally.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

LMAO, if it's a recurring one just redirect it to your instance instead, let them have their small bump for the month lol

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[–] ozoned@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

May I recommend the wonderful Piefed.Social? :-)

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

"Gee I wonder why people are so mad at us for building this platform"

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