So they're already trying to throw the 2028 election. For fuck's sake
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Of course. People should already organise around an alternative.
Your Republicans and most Democrats are two sides of the same medal
They're both funded by the same ~~people~~ corporations, so many of their goals are the same.
AOC/Walz or Walz/AOC. They would make a killer team.
Putting a woman at the top of the ticket again would definitely be a way to show them, "hey we are willing to walk into the same trap as many times as it takes to prove our point about equality."
Not enough women think a woman should be president to make the idea viable, and that's not my fault.
Which woman matters.
I find it funny, that you still buy into this narrative. Most western countries and many countries were women are considered to be discriminated more than in western countries had women leading governments. This includes far right parties such as in Italy.
Neither Hillary nor Harris lost because they were women. They lost because they had political positions driving away progressives and presented themselves in an uncharismatic and "high-and mighty" way that alienated the conservative bases they tried pondering to. If you want to win you have to at least pretend to care about normal people, not belittle them.
It's gonna be Pete, Newsome, or fettermen. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ progressives are gonna loooove these options /s
His name is Andy.
Andy Beshear is pretty centrist which is why he can get elected in Kentucky. And I know the opinion of centrists around here, they're conservatives. He might be able to win a general election, but can he win a Democratic primary? Well if he's the Golden boy, the party will shoo him in just like they did Hillary, even if there are other candidates that maybe could be more popular. Nothing like democracy in action in the Democratic party!
Democrats are gonna blow it on a fucking centrist again
Organize now and win primaries later. Shove a progressive down the DNC's throat like Trump shoved himself down the RNC's throat in 2016.
Democratic voters need to find their balls and brains to deny the establishment their choice instead of reluctantly getting behind the MSNBC boosted candidate. The best thing we can do for the Democratic party at this moment is criticize the fuck our of establishment bullshit.
Democratic voters need to find their balls and brains to deny the establishment their choice instead of reluctantly getting behind the MSNBC boosted candidate.
If it looks like that's going to happen, they just won't bother with primaries.
Again.
I am so fucking sick of doomerism.
Neither party has ever had a real primary for an incumbent president. Neither party has ever not had a primary without an incumbent president, since we started having primaries. I'm not defending it, because it's an affront to democracy, but if your looking at the past to predict the future, then you should do it right.
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Crockett said Democrats have ‘this fear’ about voting for a woman again after Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton lost
Both had a VP named Tim. Need to run a third trial where a safe white man runs with a VP candidate with the name Tim to confirm that isn't the issue.
They don't want a safe candidate. A safe candidate would be someone who takes broadly popular positions, like Medicare for All, a jobs guarantee, or public internet. They want centrist candidates, which the consultant class has convinced them is safe (and, coincidentally, never take positions that upset the donors), but centrism is the least safe position to take at this point. No one who is watching their wages stagnate while the cost of living skyrockets is thinking, "I hope this can be solved through incremental changes that don't disrupt that status-quo too much!"
They want centrist candidates, which the consultant class has convinced them is safe
They want centrist candidates and don't care if they're safe.
I think there's legitimate self-delusion that keeps some of them believing the centrist is the safe choice. Some of them delude themselves into thinking that being centrist is a good idea because people don't like, "wokeness." Some of them convince themselves that if they're too progressive, the donors will abandon them and they won't have enough money to win. I think the old timers like Carvil legitimately think that centrism is the best strategy because they can't get past 1992. But yeah, I think deep down, they would all prefer losing with a neoliberal centrist than winning with an actual progressive, even if some of them won't admit it.
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I will vote for whoever isn’t the disgusting republican traitor. But give me fucking AOC, ffs.
Why would they, if they know you'll vote for whoever isn't republican
Good call. Best to not vote so they don't even need to try to win your vote. /s
Why are .ml some of the dumbest people on Lemmy?
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