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I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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[–] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (6 children)

“We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it”

Idk maybe I am ignorant on history, but like…what time but the current would have MORE exposure to sexual content than the current internet age?
I do feel like we are living in one of the most if not the most sexually liberated and over exposed times in history for good or for ill I feel like that’s just obviously the case.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exposure to sexual content is inherently a modern thing because it's wildly artificial to think of sexual activity as "content." Depictions of sex acts are ancient though, they just weren't commodified (and obviously there's a big qualitative difference between naughty engravings and live action recordings). But I would say that when humans lived in big polygamic groups before any kind of family structures had developed (and with the family structure strict sexual regulation) you could say they were more sexually liberated.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Didn't Pompeii literally have dicks carved into the street to point the way to the nearest brothel? I think the classical world was incredibly sexually liberated and similarly exposed to sex a lot more than we are.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

large parts of the the classical world were slave societies, including pompeii. that level of sexual exploitation really strikes me as at odds with 'sexual liberation'

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 day ago

Liberation is when human trafficking.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think we need Marx here. When you just have little depictions of nudity and sex as art pieces here and there it's a very different phenomenon compared to the commodification of sex. When we're talking about a commodity, it fundamentally transforms the relation we have with the object, it stops being just a thing that exists with a use value, to being a product that is brought to market and owned. It is produced in mass. Exploitation and alienation become parts of the operating process necessary for it to enter the market. So on and so forth.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Guy. You're comparing Internet porn to a society where there were prostitution currencies and brothels staffed by slaves

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[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What does sexual liberation mean to you? Putting housing out of ~~young~~ most people's reach, dating being enclosed by apps under a monopoly, wastelands of soul-less sexual content made solely to satisfy markets and algorithms, and wave after wave of legislation criminalizing queerness, sex education, and existing in public space couldn't possibly be what you mean. So what do you?

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[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

“Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

Hmm some people maybe

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

That's true

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant

That's NOT true

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time.

Agree

There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

I strongly disagree, I think boys these days get exposed, and expose themselves, to sexual content far more than even when I was young

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to.

Yes

BTW Let's tone things down, struggle session over GOONING is wild, people

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's NOT true

OK but it is actually true though.

What now?

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[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I prefer spaces where sexual talk is kept to a minimum so a little too much Puritanism is a fair trade off for me

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[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Gooning this" & "gooning that", read the literature liberals. Whacking off is solved theory, Just build a metal & wood veneer box to jack it in. Orgone theory has already spelled all this out for over 100 years.

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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (16 children)

honestly voIcel police is just a really tired meme. that said I do really value the anti-horny culture of this particular board, it's played a big part in keeping this a good space for people that aren't cis men I think.

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[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gooning behaviour the sexual activity? Niche fetish. Never tried it. Never had the time to try it.

Gooning behaviour aka the porn version of being "terminally online"? Annoying at best, community destroying at worst.

Gooning behaviour aka how my friends use it, aka "we have this one friend who refuses to leave the house and we joke that he spends all his time gooning but is actually having a mental crisis and resists all our efforts to help him"? Uh ....

So basically, words are the devil and they lead us astray with their multitudes.

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[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think there are super healthy and important conversations that should be had society-wide about more openness to sexuality. I think peoples' problems with porn almost entirely exist because there is so little conversation and openness to it in everyday life. Porn becomes everything a person knows or thinks about sex because it's the only place you learn or talk about it in any way.

I do think it'd be neat if this site had some enclosed space for NSFW chats, but it's also not a priority. If it's a binary choice, I'd prefer it be a creep-free zone.

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fedposting

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Nice try. You thought you were gonna escape the long arms of the law? volcel-judge

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

On the one hand porn taught me how to have good sex. When I lost my v-card to my girlfriend she straight up asked me "are you sure you're a virgin" (jokingly since we had good sex together). BUT on the other hand, I've caught myself in the absence of intimacy engaging with porn I wouldn't feel comfortable showing anyone else. So there's for sure a ratchet effect like is common in addiction, to simply say it's not addictive I think is too dismissive.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Your cringe non-existent gooner epidemic

My wholesome based stimfap epidemic

[–] psychoplantkiller@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First they came for the gooners, and I did not speak up, for I was not a gooner.

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