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Conservative parents said they’re looking to exit public schools after an anemic performance by right-leaning candidates in school board elections this week.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 206 points 1 year ago (4 children)

FTA:

"The father was placed in handcuffs after recounting the sexual assault of his daughter by a transgender student in a school bathroom and demanding answers.

Smith was later pardoned by Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin.

Loudoun County parent Scott Smith was arrested in 2021 at a school board meeting after his daughter’s sexual assault.

“A lot of us thought that that was a turning point,” said another local dad whose child will graduate out of the district this year."

So you know that demands a fact check:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/loudoun-school-sex-assault-investigation-unsealed-by-judge/3423751/

"In May 2021, a male student sexually assaulted a girl classmate inside a restroom at Stone Bridge High School. He was transferred to Broad Run High School for the next school year, where he assaulted another girl."

Clearly a failure on the part of the school system... But then we get to the right wing talking points:

"After much discussion over whether the perpetrator was transgender or wore a skirt to get into the restroom where the first teen was attacked, the report found no evidence that the attacker identified as female or gender fluid. It found no evidence that he wore a skirt or kilt that day, and no witnesses reported seeing him in a girl’s bathroom or trying to get into one."

The assaults definitely happened, but not in the way dad describes them as happening.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Of course the NYPost fails to include such a useful and relevant bit of information.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Of course the NYPost fails to include ~~such a useful and relevant bit of~~ information.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it possible to blacklist sources?

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I have an extension on Firefox called Bye Rupert that automatically blocks sites controlled by Rupert Murdoch. I have it set to allow such pages to load in a private window, if I want to see them for some reason, but I have to make a conscious decision to visit the site.

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean why not twist your daughter's assault to support your bigoted narrative? I'm sure she'll never resent lying about the circumstances of her assault to serve her father. Being used by men, after all, is the highest calling of a woman.

I wish I was surprised, but all I feel is disgust and an abundance of not surprise.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We REALLY need a word for being shocked and appalled without being the least bit surprised. Happens to reasonable people all the time nowadays..

[–] Sovereign_13@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just reminds me of the Iago quote from Disney’s Aladdin:

“Oh there’s a big surprise! I think I’m gonna have a heart attack and die from not surprise!”

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The perp is probably a straight white boy. if he was a poc the dad wouldn’t have changed story.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

Imagine your daughter is sexually assaulted and your first impulse is to get excited about using it as an excuse to smear trans people. What a fucking ghoul.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So test scores for public schools are gonna go up, then.

[–] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

The bullying drops as well.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those poor kids, it’s bad enough they have bigoted morons for parents.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure. My mother suffered brain damage after a heart attack while I was in high school. She nearly immediately became super conservative and scared of everything and everyone that wasn't white because of Fox News.

So glad that I got to finish my high school education and move away to college and cut contact with her. I can only imagine if I had been younger. Growing up, she was a progressive person who even advocated for easier legal immigration and same sex marriage when it was super unpopular to do so.

Not saying all conservatives have brain damage, but...

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not saying all conservatives have brain damage, but...

There's definitely a correlation between issues with critical thinking and conservatism.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol what a garbage article. They’re mad about trans kids using their preferred bathroom.

Classic NYPost garbage

[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What whiny fucking children.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservative parents should think about staying in school as long as they possibly can. I mean, they’re dumb enough as they are. Can you imagine if they all dropped out?

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know whether this is a joke about them having to repeat grades multiple times, or whether its about teenage mothers. I'm here for it either way.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

That guy looks like a South Park caricature of a Trump voter.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get the fuck out, then. I don't like that their children are going to end up being the ones getting punished, but at least not everyone else's kids are getting punished along with the children of these extremists.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Going to disagree. I would rather they ruin every single PTO and School Board meeting instead of hurting their own children. My parents pulled the same shit on me and I no where got the education level I should have gotten.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But letting them "ruin every single PTO and School Board meeting" means "letting them ruin every child's education."

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Good. That's the way choice is supposed to work. If you object to your kids getting indoctrinated or whatever, your remedy is homeschool or private school not trying to force everyone else's kids to fit into your worldview.

It drives me crazy here in Florida, it's easy to homeschool, so much support from the state and clear rules about evaluations. But no, these absolute racists (autocorrect of facist but if the shoe fits..) want to force all the kids to follow their rules. That's bullshit.

I have plenty of problems with the local schools and have homeschooled some of mine off and on when I couldn't find a good fit for them but one of the nicest things about public schools is the kids' complete indifference to gender or preferences. These kids are so nonchalant when someone who was a girl last year is a boy this year or whatever, and the raging homophobia that was part of my high school experience (people getting beaten up for being different in any way) is just gone. Not that there aren't fights and drugs like at any school but the kids overall are nicer and not so beaten down.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Hey, this is not a dig at all, but the reason autocorrect is bothering you is that "fascist" has an extra S in it.

Also I completely agree with you on all counts.

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[–] pickleprattle@midwest.social 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They want to ruin public education and have it pay for private school so no one's child might learn anything they seem progressive. That's been the game plan, that's what DeVos was working on - underpaid teachers and a stifling censorship environment causing teachers and students to leave public Ed is by design.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I was going to say, this is not new. As long as they don't get to take their kid's tax dollars with them, good fucking riddance.

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[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

children raising the next generation of children, but with even less education.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

"I'll be damned if I let my boy learn!"

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We gotta get some real regulations for homeschooling in this country.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not being able to force EVERYONE'S children to learn the same thing as your kids is SOCIALISM! TRUE Freedom is when I get to force YOUR kids to learn what I WANT THEM TO LEARN!

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh hey that's the definition of conservatism I like. "No one tells me what to do. I tell others what to do."

It explains most conservative positions.

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Nothing new, here in SC several right-wing nut jobs I've come across homeschool their kids in order to indocrinate them with the crazies

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Please find a better source than the NY Compost.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These christofascists aren't worried about their children being indoctrinated. They're worried about the indoctrination to fear, hatred, intolerance, and self-loathing that they have been given at home and in their "churches" being depeogrammed.

Exposing children to ideas you don't agree with is not indoctrination. Exposing children only to ideas you agree with is the definition of indoctrination.

Every accusation is an admission.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I’m totally down with conservatives educating their kids poorly so they can’t get into college and are forced to take jobs cleaning my left wing toilet. It’s for the children, remember?

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Very dangerous line of thought there..

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[–] cacheson@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno, seems kinda bourgeois? Leftist mostly clean their own toilets. They also want to eliminate class stratification, even for those that had conservative parents.

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[–] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of parents are in a far-right media bubble that tells them that public schools are teaching third graders about anal sex and trying to make every kid trans. And that any mention of racism is the dreaded CRT. The people with the money behind this propaganda want to eliminate public schools and put every American kid in a private Christian school.

Here's a pledge from a group of privately owned charter schools that RELY ON TAXPAYER MONEY. The head of the schools refuses to disclose his salary.

I pledge to keep myself healthy in body, mind, and spirit, staying physically fit, mentally awake, and morally straight.

I pledge to be truthful in all my works, guarding against the stains of falsehood from the fascination with experts, the temptation of vanity, the comfort of popular opinion and custom, the ease of equivocation and compromise, and from over-reliance on rational argument.

I pledge to be virtuous in all my deeds, with the courage to exemplify faith in my beliefs, hope for a better future, and charity towards my neighbor – with prudence in new undertakings, with justice when called on to judge, with fortitude in the face of adversity, and with temperance toward temptation.

I pledge to be obedient and loyal to those in authority, in my family, in my school, and in my community and country,

So long as I shall live.

The owner of these schools took a case all the way to the Supreme Court on the issue of whether he could require girls to wear skirts because girls are "fragile vessels."

https://newrepublic.com/article/171824/charter-school-north-carolina-requires-girls-wear-skirts

https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/who-behind-attacks-educators-and-public-schools

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Omg ok ok ok ok that is or has to be a Cult .

"and from over-reliance on rational argument."

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Fantastic news!

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Taking your ball and going home, Christofascist edition.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say, "Good, go," except this leads to children being taught bullshit and radicalization. And there's no real education to go with it.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sounds like we have a case of michael scott win win win conflict resolution here

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ideally you'd want the kids to get an education which challenges the ignorance they are fed at home though. gotta break the cycle

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