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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Hell is other people

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

biden-point flag-non-binary-pride

There's at least three genders Jack

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[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Measurements and brainwormsEvery time I measure myself or get measured I somehow get closer to having an hourglass figure despite doing literally nothing. My waist keep getting thinner and my chest and hips keep getting wider. I'm genuinely even close to my hips being as wide as my shoulders.

My brain can't keep up or cope with it. I still feel like someone who wears men's medium/large and is bigger than the women around me despite the fact that I currently wear women's smalls and, beyond height, most women I know have bigger sizes than me. I even know that, when I first measured myself pre-E, that I was actually on par with cis women's measurements (based on the dress I was ordering) with the one exception being my waist which has since gotten smaller such that everything is on par now except occasionally height and shoulder width depending on the piece. So I recognise that I was actually more feminine in build in the first place than I thought I was, and I recognise that I'm incredibly lucky to have this sort of body. And I'm really grateful about that, I love it and I've loved watching it sculpt itself with estrogen.

But it is also existentially terrifying to consider when it shows just how much my body has changed in the 1.5 years since I started E and got kicked out. My waist getting thinner? That's because I literally ate nothing more than one muffin a day (at best) for a whole month immediately after I was kicked, and while I've been eating better I'm still not eating as well as I used to. My boobs and hips getting bigger? Typical estrogen effects that make me happy, but it's also pushing me into having a hourglass-adjacent body shape that is, for trans women, very atypical and feels almost alien compared to what I expected my body to become. I'll reiterate that I'm incredibly happy with all of these changes. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that whenever I get a concrete number to think about it scares me a little. It's always a reminder of where I was a year and a half ago and how my self-image doesn't align with my actual self at times, it's always a reminder of how quick a body can drastically change, and it's always a reminder that, maybe, a lot of the things I was dysphoric over were never quite so bad as they used to feel to me.

To use a term I loathe, being faced with these concrete numbers make me feel like I've been a "bdd passoid." I despise that term and how people use it to just insult anyone they consider prettier than them, while being dismissive of whatever dysphoria the person in question has. But it almost feels like it fits me, when I'm given these exact measurements that tell me not only is my body close to cisnormative patriarchal beauty standards in ways unattainable for other people, but it's been that way for maybe longer than I thought.

I've always had a very visual relationship with my dysphoria. It feels like, if I can't see the thing I'm dysphoric about in the moment, then it stops being present in my head. A good example is body hair. I often don't shave as often when it's winter and I'm wearing pants or tights since I can't see, and thereby feel bad about, my body hair. I'd prefer to always be clean shaven, of course. But there's a point where the cost-benefit ratio of shaving my body loses out and it's when I will be actively seeing the dysphoria-inducing thing in question. So this makes the possibility of being a "bdd passoid" feel stronger, after all, BDD is more obsessed with a false perception than anything actual. Maybe my dysphoria was always just that.

But that line of thought ends there, because I am genuinely very happy with my appearance now, in a way where BDD wouldn't seem to apply to me as well. And I mean, of course. "bdd passoids" are usually people who do worry about certain features and the term is just used as a cudgel to be shitty and dismissive of their hurt, to suggest that one's own hurt is more real and therefore valid unlike the passoid's. It's a cruel term like everything else that's come from /tttt/ and its adjacent spaces.

But in my case specifically, it matters that the thing that provokes this feeling is getting concrete measurements. I've always used body measurements as a way to actually track how femme I am, trying to chase a ridiculous cisnormative beauty standard because it's the thing that I thought would bring me some joy. And now that I've gotten quite close to it... It has. And so much of my dysphoria around these things is gone, and goes away every time I do it again. But certain things, my smallness in particular, haven't sunk in yet.

I don't really think my obsession with measurements has been healthy at all. I mean, obviously right? I became so fixated on them because it felt like a calculable way to determine what I'd need to magically pass. The same sort of toxic relationship with my body that spaces like /tttt/ promote, even if I never went there. I've never been quite so bad that I'd measure myself constantly; I only do it when necessary for clothing purchases. But nonetheless it has often been a huge source of both euphoria and dysphoria. Now that I've reached the "good" measurements, it always provokes euphoria. But it also always reminds me that I used to have a body that some would consider already lucky for a trans woman. So why wasn't I satisfied with it? Well, I don't think it was the right body for me. Why should I fixate on if I'm allowed to have felt dysphoric about it. I felt dysphoric regardless, wishing that away won't change anything. And now that I feel euphoric about my body more often than not, why should I believe that it's me being a "bdd passoid" rather than simply a dysphoria about something that just wasn't right for me? Why shouldn't I be allowed to feel this tangled mess of positive and negative emotions when I get a measurement and recognise how far I've come in this tangled mess of a life I've lived? I think that's where I'm at, now. It's a messy feeling that I get, and it's probably not the healthiest thing to feel when being measured. But I also don't think it's so negative as it could be. I'm okay with who I am, both body and mind, even if it took some time to get here.

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[–] VibeCoder@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Dysphoria’s stupid. I don’t want to look like a woman but I only ever get jealous of the way women look.

[–] Disaster_of_Passion@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

one of the things I'm possibly irrationally happy with myself about is feminizing my sneeze.

I legitimately get angry if I'm around someone and I almost-sneeze-but-then-don't because I feel robbed of the opportunity to show off that I Sneeze Cute now.

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

substance abusetrying not to drink having me feel like mr. krabs

DAY FIFTY FIVE! GIVE IT UP FOR DAY FIFTY FIVE!

it's only getting harder and i'm fucking losing it

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Dorley Hall would be a phenomenal prestige TV drama. Just the twists, dialogue, personal journeys etc.

I'm just not sure how you'd handle pre and post transition characters, time skips etc.

Animation would be one way but then it would probably be less of a hit.

Maybe casting lots of trans actors and using costuming and makeup IDK?

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

one of gender-affirming-but-shitty things I do to myself is looking at posts from trans girls living the kind of life I wish I had and letting myself obsess over how jealous I am of them it until it stews into self hatred

this never happened when I looked at posts from conventionally successful men when I thought I was one of them

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[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

I really appreciate the transfeminist yuri (and yaoi) enjoyers who take the time to both dismantle cisheteropatriarchy (in anime and in general,) and also me know when an anime parallels Utena.

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The lesser evil that is a strict bedtimecatgirl-cry why do I have to pick this

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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

spoilerI swear there's an emoji of someone who's face is melting off and that's pretty much how I feel

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

One year ago today I fully realized I’m trans and decided to come out to friends online. 2 weeks later I started HRT. Still not out at work, but I feel like I’ve at least come a long way since last year.

EDIT: That night I was drinking a bit and listening to this over and over to hype myself up: https://youtu.be/yZZA5k4ovxQ

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[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

>me yesterday

"Women in suits are hot"

>me today

buying a suit

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[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (19 children)

me trying to open up a dialogue with the trans megaWhat up nerds nerd

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[–] inTheShadowOf@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

CW: Death (additional CW below)
spoiler Specific CW: Suicide Reading about a trans girl killing herself and seeing all the hate in response really is grim. Shit world through and through.

RIP Charlotte trans-heart :::

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In one episode of an animated batman, the Joker frets about paying the IRS and not wanting to mess with taxes

Does he have a social insurance number??? When he files his taxes, is his name Mr The Joker???

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[–] other_platypus@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

nightmaressome days my brain is like the worst "idea guy" there is, like "you know how you do your best to be decent and care for the people around you? WHAT IF an extremely contrived set of circumstances happen and you behave totally differently than normal and suddenly you've hurt someone or everyone??? Bet you feel bad now don't you you bad person!"

then I wake up anxious and have to talk myself down and this happens multiple times a week. like I'd at least appreciate the nightmare art form if they made any sense whatsoever, but I guess the audience is so easy to scare it doesn't need to.

[–] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

is the pixel the trans phone. discuss

[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

::: spoiler obnoxiously positive maybe

Stuff's starting to go good for me ngl, tonight I'm going to the first meeting of the local film club i joined to see a neorealist film made in Germany just a year after the fall of Berlin, so I've been watching some of the other italian neorealist films to get a context for it in advance. at the oxfam i volunteer at i sold like a billion books yesterday and i managed to find a really good quality Wes Anderson artbook with like interviews with him and loads of behind the scenes stuff for just 4 bucks + i saw the new Anderson film the day before in cinemas and loved it. Last week i was at an art museum with a really creative and clever friend and he asked when his first film releases later this year if i want a free ticket to the first screening along with him and all the actors and stuff and im really excited for that, also i got a really cool artbook at the museum about the progression of art in the first half of the 20th century starting with Monet and leading through the major movements until it got to Picasso. Been dressing nicely, taking care of myself, looking nice, really getting into wearing all my different browns and autumnal colours and stuff. Also I injected last night while watching a corbucci cowboy film which was nice. Idk, its feeling like cvnty boymoder twinkhon (positive) summer.

Idk, it feels like I'm being born for the second time, having a road ahead of me and a path to living in womanhood feels so much better than the suffocating limbo i used to be in - also the whole getting super into films (and kind of art in general on the side) thing's been cool af too.

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

watching marvel movies in french call that crepe shit

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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There's a bunch of things I really should do tonight (or the last several) but I really don't want to so I think I'm going to compromise and continue to not do it.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

update: I did the easy thing and (separately) I feel like hell.

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

bad family shit, grief, mental health, sobriety/relapse, dysphoria, venting/rambling idkMy dad died

We never really had a good relationship and it kept getting worse due to his alcoholism which eventually led to his death

I don't know how to feel

I always thought it'd be a relief when he passed since he kept getting worse and worse and his health and quality of life and cogency kept plummeting and I kept getting more resentful of how much his decline and addiction put strain on me and my mom (only child) to take care of him even as he made everything as miserable and difficult and tedious as possible but I really don't think I feel anything and it's really odd

My overall mental health is a lot better than it has been at low points before, I've had depressive episodes where I could hardly get out of bed and isolated for years and now I'm healthier and have some close friends again for the first time in years but I feel really... off? Uncanny? I don't know what to call it. Depersonalizing? I feel like I'm not really here?

I'm a recovering alcoholic and have been mostly sober this year but slipped up twice and feel bad about both of the relapses but only one was bad

Feel physically really gross

Just too big, too awkward, always swimming upstream trying to not become a fucking sasquatch due to shit genes and always feeling stubbly and gross

I felt like my skin is made of sandpaper

Idk I guess a silver lining is since I tried to stop drinking I started doing weed a lot more and I've been enjoying music a lot more again which is nice

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[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

as i logged on my bearsite i saw a new tagline! it was a silly one, completely contextless, no way to know what it means. but this time i was there, in the silly thread when it came to be! i get it! I'm chuffed haha, so here for this.

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[–] other_platypus@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Monday Minecraft. Is that a thing? Can it be a thing?

Update: it was also Minecraft Tuesday

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[–] Beetle@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

I love maths trans mega

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we have a transmasc friend with multiple sclerosis and he wants to start T but isnt sure what kind of effects thatll have on the MS... anybody know anything about that? (obvs asked doctors and they said its a bad idea but like we dont trust doctors around here soooo :3)

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Believe it or not testosterone HRT is something they do for cis men with MS (they often have lower T because of the disease process). It's even known to have neuroprotective benefits including some protection of myelin (potentially even forming new mylein, I dunno the details)

I'm not sure what the doctors are thinking... presumably they're worried the cardiovascular risks aren't worth it. But if your aim is just masculinizing then the risk is more or less what every cis man is walking around with and AFAIK they don't order an anti androgen to cis men with MS lol

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

AFAIK they don't order an anti androgen to cis men with MS lol

Yea this, if they don't take cis people off their hormones don't let them do the same to you

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[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Funny how estrogen would have saved all three Ta'veren in the wheel of time.

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[–] frankfurt_schoolgirl@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sex and dysphoria:

spoilerI somehow really fucked myself up with bottom dysphoria in the last couple months. It didn't used to be like this, I didn't exactly like having a penis but I was ok with it and could let people touch me and stuff. But idk somehow I got all messed up about it. I guess I don't want anyone to touch my dick under any circumstances now, but I feel like that won't go well. Everyone I've ever been with has been really interested in it. IDK maybe I just need to be celebate and to work harder for bottom surgery.

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