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A tweet states that National Guard or Active Duty military ordered to violate constitutional rights can call the GI Rights Hotline for support, with the number 1-877-447-4487 provided.

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

Remember that institutions are not a requirement for conscience.

You're not that special-if you're feeling it, a lot if other people probably are too

You're going to choose whether you live in a world where men with guns shoot civilians, or shoot (higher) officers who order them to shoot civilians. Sorry you gotta make that choice.

What lead you here? Who are you? Who do you want to be? How can you best be loyal to that?

When this is all over, you're going to have to live with what you've done. Or not. Im telling you; the best therapists are or know people in those crowds.

Whose side are you on?

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 0 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

No. They should not shoot the officer that gives the order, that is a prison sentence no matter what.

The whole "disobey unethical orders" thing is for officers on the field receiving orders from command that they perceive as a warcrime (or against the constitution). They simply say "no, we aren't doing that".

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

but that's illegal!

If this pops off, there are no laws. It's just men with guns. Your lib shit is going to get people killed. Lots of people. Your lib shit is how you start a civil war. Stop. Delete this comment. Im trying to reduce harm here, you're clearly into accellerationism.

the officers should

Yeah. Yeah they should. And if they don't, their soldiers should protest, by issuing a report in .768.

Political power, when there is no mutual respect or goal, comes out the barrel of a gun.

I'd suggest all service members from all branches of military to expect to be made to do blatantly fascist things. Do not be a tool of a dictator; do not simply follow orders. Fully prepare to quit in protest, or fully prepare to be a perpetrator.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 31 points 8 hours ago

Forgive my ignorance, who even answers that hotline? What can they do?

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

We need to identify where on the Internet people who this post would speak to are congregating. While I don't doubt there are some vets on Lemmy I doubt many active national guard are here. We should be smart with these posts

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 55 minutes ago

I think it's more like, if you know someone who is.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I know the air force subreddit has a lot of active duty members, maybe there’s a subreddit for the other branches

[–] MinorLaceration@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

/r/Army and lemmy.world/c/army

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 7 points 9 hours ago

Friends and family members might be here though.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 33 points 10 hours ago

I just logged on to post this and was pleased to see it at the top of my feed o7