They get arrested, and for community service, they have to do the quest or get hanged..hung.
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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Hanged. Unless we're giving them all huge dongs.
It can be both
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Death by Snu Snu!
Then there needs to be consequences for that. Now they’re in jail and the quest is to escape before the party is executed.
My DM always says, you can do anything you want, but there will be consequences.
The killing was at the end of the oneshot, so i simply finished by saying that they got captured by the authorities and executed for murder.
Ahh, the Fight Club, China Edition ending!
I had something like that happen. I had to rewrite the whole story on the fly and kept hinting at the big, important mystery that they missed out because they killed the people necessary for the initial hook of the quest.
Did they at least one-shot the quest giver?
Yes
Well then,
Punish murderhoboing severely. Party gets wiped and it won't be fun.
Set bounties on them. Put up wanted posters in major cities. Now they can no longer find important NPCs and they are constantly attacked by adventuring parties and mercenaries.
One of the things I like about the CofD games like Mage is it has a mechanical tracker for doing vile stuff. "Sure, you can curse him to vomit forever but that's going to call for a Wisdom check." Losing wisdom means you're worse at containing spell miscasts. Uncontained spell paradoxes will ruin your day. And hitting wisdom 0 means the character is unplayable.
I've stopped a lot of nonsense with "that'll be a wisdom check, if you're sure you want to do that"
Yeah, I remember playing D&D in high school. If you don't have a lot of maturity, it's easy to fall into violent power fantasies that the freedom of a TRPG offers versus a CRPG.
This is why I'm really glad for modern session 0 agendas and safety tools to set expectations and keep people on the same page.
In theory I think a wacky GTA-style TTRPG is not fundamentally wrong, but everyone including the DM needs to agree to it beforehand.
but everyone including the DM needs to agree to it beforehand.
Exactly, it can be a lot of fun if everyone is on board. So many great ttrpg memories have come from that kind of chaos, but they're only good memories because everyone at the table consented to join the chaos.
ah yes, the "no-shot"
"The Quest giver speaks some unholy last words, your entire party faints, a unknown amount of time passed, your party wakes up in some kind of dark and cold cave, you can't find your belongings, you just have the clothes you wore last time you remember, one party member finds a magic torch, you can see you are in a dungeon, from the color of the stone you estimated to be pretty deep inside it..."
One shot, my shot, you're shot, headshot.
I actually kind of embrace the players doing whatever they want, so long as it's not some way to harass other players or the DM. If they're doing something to deliberately ruin the game, that's not acceptable. If they're doing something the DM didn't expect or account for, that's just the game baybee. It be how it is
A quest is only truly yours if you paid the iron price