Fugitive slave act redux
this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2025
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If reciprocal enforcement can allow Texas to force NY to follow their laws, then why can't NY force Texas to provide abortions?
This is basically an extension of the law that compelled non-slave states to return escaped slaves to the owners in Southern states.
No state should be compelled to follow an immoral law in another state. Texas can't force NY to refuse to treat a patient, any more than NY can force Texas to provide an abortion.
Wouldn't the Texas requirement allow New York to challenge all the southern bullshit, like religion in schools, book bans, etc?
Do they want to open that can of worms?
Also, this makes as much sense as North Korea trying to get the US to abide by their laws.
True story.
One night a woman came to our Catholic hospital ER in Central Texas because she was sexually assaulted.
The doctor prescribed Plan B because the victim didn't want to carry her rapist's baby.
Our hospital refused to dispense it. Poor woman had to wait two days to get it from CVS.
This is the reality
Excuse my life, but what the fuck is a Catholic hospital?
"Welcome good sirs to my church of the Bristol Stool Chart!"
Fun facts (they are not fun):
After a forced stay in their psych ward, my local Catholic Hospital asked me if I "felt the light of god during [my] stay?" They also don't prescribe birth control and have a general hate-boner for having to help fat women. I had to teach my doctor what a trans person is and how to address one (this decade).
Anyway, they bought all the medical buildings in all the towns near me. Woo!
The Seventh Day Adventists also have a shit ton of hospitals, the largest among the Protestant denominations iirc. You’ve probably heard of the Kellogg families impact on things like popularizing circumcision…
SDAs also have a substantial impact on the modern conspiracy theory landscape. The cult at Waco was an offshoot, Bill Cooper incorporated their propaganda in his weirdo narrative, if you live in the US you’ve probably got their book mailed about the “Sunday Law”….
Advent owns most of the Hospitals and urgent care facilities in my area. Walking through the hospital, there are a constant religious references. One has a huge painting of a person dying in bed, their family and doctor gathered around, with a brightly painted and shining Jesus among them.
I've got a problem with a hospital who still considers divine intervention to be a viable medical strategy. What is this, the fucking Middle Ages?
Lots of hospitals were started by churches.
One of Texas's biggest medical providers is the Methodist Health System, with 12 full-fledged hospitals and over 100 clinics that started as a hospital in Houston founded by the Methodist church. For most people, it's just another hospital. The church doesn't get any of the money or anything.
Catholic hospitals, however, are a little more notorious for denying care based on religious principles - with abortion and birth control being the big one. They won't do abortions, offer contraceptives, or perform vasectomies, for instance.
I'm not religious in the slightest, but in my experience, them Methodists seem pretty chill. Worked with one to make their website a while a back and their pastor was the most laid back, easy to work with dude, loved everyone, black, white, brown, straight, gay, trans, whatever. I miss that guy.
The Methodist Church has always been staunchly anti-gay. Some are trying to change it, but the bigotry remains.
It seems the United Methodists are the more tolerant ones compared to the Global Methodists? I'm not sure, like I said, I'm not religious in any sense and by and large avoid this world. Apologies for any ignorance on my side. My experience is entirely anecdotal. The only thing I can truly say with full confidence is that this one particular church was a generally decent and tolerant group of people.
Be careful now.
The methodist church had a schism recently. There's the "United Methodist" and the new "Global Methodist."
The Global Methodist church was founded specifically to exclude gay people. They also have much smaller apportionments (church's equivalent of taxes that the individual churches pay to the organization and is used for things like relief work), and allow the congregations to directly hore and fire clergy so the preachers can't get all uppity and tell them not to be prejudiced or to be kind or welcoming to people who aren't like you.
Ahhh, interesting. These guys were United Methodists, if that wasn't obvious haha.
Methodists are also okay with women being pastors/priests/preachers. They're also pretty good at begging everyone for money.
The old pastor retired and just so happened to have been replaced by a woman! I don't know her personally like I did him, but every time I drive by, her messages out on the front board are always full of the same positivity and tongue and cheek shit I actually look forward to reading.
Unlike the other churches around that are like "you better pray or you're going to hell" and other threatening garbage.
Organized medical care has a long history of being carried out by members of religious orders, with formal doctors and nurses being pretty recent in the grand scheme of things.
In the olden days in Europe, medicine was almost exclusively the responsibility of the religious leaders, since a large portion of medicine is death, and death is a religion's bread & butter.
High-ranking people knew to supplement their monk doctors with a military-experienced battlefield medic, who knew how to treat serious injuries with actual medical treatment, and not just prayers.
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Sorry to ask, but if such a place didn’t want to dispense it, why would they have it? Am I not understanding something about pharmacies here?
They should have it for the same reason they should have aspirin its called for.
Chernobyl patient
Sorry shitstain, other parts of the country actually allow women to have rights.
Go fail at saving some kids from drowning and let the civilized people do their thing.
To wit: there’s a NY state law that makes it illegal for state officials to help shit-ass states like Texas follow through on legal threats like this within the context of the NY legal system. This is that law working as intended.
Or more succinctly: lick my taint, Ken Paxton, you fucking imbecilic psychopath.
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Sorry, we don't handle verdicts from rogue nations
Ken Paxton out here looking like he had a chemical peel.
alcohol and too much sun does that, also caucasian people dont do well under the sun or alcoholism, its the red flushing to the face.
Poor boy has had a rough week, first his wife says she wants a divorce because of his adultery and now he finds out he's impotent in a different state.
Being a dog fearing christian is tough in this day and age, especially when you're actually a shitbag.
There's absolutely no way in hell that it's just adultery, not when she explicitly says that she can't remain and still hold on to her 'Christian' values. Paxton has done a fuckton of things things that explicitly go against what Jesus taught in the four gospels, and against damn near everything that Paul wrote as well, so it's gotta be more than just extra-marital sex.
“While I’m not entirely sure how things work in Texas, here in New York, a rejection means the matter is closed,” Bruck wrote in a letter to Texas officials.
I imagine Paxton blew a gasket over that. Lmao.
Fugitive Slave Acts all over again.
"State's rights for me, federalism for you."
- every conservative state
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