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Twitch allowing more nudity after disproportionately banning female streamers | Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.::Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 109 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sexism is an issue with gaming for sure but banning nudity is not sexism.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 103 points 10 months ago (42 children)

It is if women's nipples are nudity but men's nipples are not.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 63 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why not have a "no nipples" policy in general? I'm guessing that if parents think that their 7 year olds are going on Twitch to see boobs, they could lose some viewers.

But yes, policies should be applied equally.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Because having a no nipples policy is a stupid way to live your life. Free your nipples.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd rather not show you my nipples.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago

Fine keep your secrets.

[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Something wrong with them huh?

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[–] Fish@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago

Free the nipple

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I agree with you but this is more of a societal issue and not necessarily a Twitch issue. I think Twitch following the standards set by society was reasonable however them pushing to improve upon those is absolutely welcome.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. At one point in time it was society saying black people couldn't eat with white people and it was people and companies willing to push that boundary that changed this.

We are all members of society and it is on us to constantly push back against the unfair traditions in our community.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Did you just equate Jim Crow with not being able to see titties on a mainstream streaming site?

You know you can see titties on other streaming sites, right?

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 79 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm all for allowing nudity in general, but it would be nice if you could actually block it or at least remove it from your recommendations.

One time I accidently clicked on one of these bathtub streamers and since then there always is one in my recommendation, with no way to remove it. I literally had to install a browser extention "Unwanted Twitch" to finally get rid of it.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My home page is literally bathtub streamers and horny VR chat streamers, I think it's because I watch VR chat meme streamers (lolathon, darrenzeus) and the algorithm just thinks that means I want horny shit. I'll have to look at that extension.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many male bimbo gamer streams are there?

[–] 0x4F50@feddit.ch 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Twitch is stuck between a religious rock and a hard-as-wood place.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] PwnTra1n@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago
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[–] RabbePompano@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Why is twitch becoming a cam soft porn site? It was supposed to be about gaming. I just want to watch people play games.

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're in luck! There are millions of people playing games on Twitch. Who knew?

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[–] MacNCheezus 32 points 10 months ago

Well, you see, it turned out that people are far more willing to fork over money when they get to see boobs instead of noobs.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

goes on Twitch

finds game

watches someone play it

At some point in there I completely ignored all the discount OnlyFans over on IRL and Just Chatting tags.

That said: An opt-in with specific categories would halt a lot of the people complaining. Been awhile since I've dug into websites design, though thay shouldn't be too difficult to implement, especially as they already have tags.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It hasn't been strictly gaming for many years,

What is interesting is if you don't click on or watch those streams Twitch doesn't recommend them to you.

A lot of the complaining is often just an unaware self report which is kinda funny.

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[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Your comment insinuates that you have trouble finding gamers on the platform, as if there's a finite limit on creator count and the gamers are getting pushed out by non-gaming creators, which is obviously not the case.

Is it a matter of going to Twitch for games but then getting roped in by the porn instead? If so, that's pretty funny tbh.

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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm gonna get downvoted, but this culture where teenagers can form parasocial relationships with what are essentially softcore pornstars and a culture where women can very easily become pornstars isn't healthy.

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[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree twitch is stuck but for me they shouldn't allow more nudity. Even if they put it in different categories. It s not a problem of puritanism , it s just that kid will have a direct access to literals strip stream , and your twitch account is directly linked with your amazon account and your cc. I have absolutely not problel with site like chaturbate , because you have to search for it , its completely clear on the content and even if of course there are kids who will browse it , well its more" difficult " to pay on it . Oh and btw on twitch the streamer is way closer to the chat than on any cam site the line between streamer and porn is too blur.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 25 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Is it really that hard for twitch to create an option to mark a stream as mature only Allowing 16+ accounts? (Should be mature enough for erotic non porn)

Kids who lie about their age know what there doing and require more parental oversight when signing up to a platform.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

That's already a thing, but 18+ like the law states. Streamers can mark their streams mature and it shows you a warning and disclaimer. Only twitch needs is kids accounts with the option for a parent to disable access to those streams.

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[–] MacNCheezus 22 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Interesting how we've gone from "expecting nudity from women is sexist" to "NOT expecting nudity from women is sexist".

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's the message at all. It's disproportionately punishing women for nudity that is sexist.

[–] Gljvf 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unless the women are disproportionately engaging in nudity.

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[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A bunch of furries tried to abide by this policy and ended up getting banned lol

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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So what happens when a minor streams themselves nude to thousands of viewers? Does everyone get charged?

[–] ButtCheekOnAStick@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

LOL what? It would be the same if a minor uploaded themselves to Pornhub. The video would just be taken down.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

well, now I really don't feel like I'm missing much on twitch.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In one prominent example, just two days before the policy change, Twitch banned OnlyFans model Morgpie for posting "topless" streams.

Hession confirmed that Twitch's policy prohibiting "content that ‘deliberately highlighted breasts, buttocks or pelvic region,’ even when fully clothed" was confusing.

"Streamers found it difficult to determine what was prohibited and what was allowed and often evaluating whether or not a stream violated this portion of the policy was subjective," Hession wrote.

The only exceptions will be made for streams labeled as including mature-rated games and profanity, which will still appear in the main feed on the homepage.

"In addition to providing clarity, these updates will also reduce the risk of inconsistent enforcement and bring our policy more in line with other social media services."

“With the updated terms of service, content on Twitch containing mature themes will be allowed but no longer pushed on the homepage of the site,” Morgpie told Dexerto.


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