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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 131 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Let's ban any ads targeted towards kids.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 38 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh. Some level of advertising is necessary.

I used to run a Magic: the Gathering shop right when it opened. We had great prices, great prizes, a phenomenal gaming area, and since I was the only employee I knew the customer service was top notch.

None of that would have mattered, though, if people didn't know I existed. I knew I could eventually rely on word of mouth to grow my community, but I still had to get the first customers in the door for the first time.

And coming at it from the other side, lots of online services that we use for "free" are paid for by ads being shown to us. If those ads were banned, we would see large upsets in how those services are paid for. There's potential for good here, since one possible response could be subsidization and commodification of websites like YouTube, reddit, and Facebook, but who knows what the chances of that could be.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Fine, Let's centralize where ads are shown then. Rather than plastering them across the internet and ruining, just have ads.com. It can even have location-specific ads.

[–] Bears_Koolaid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone ever go to ads.com lol

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago

If you're actually looking for a product, it would be like a huge Internet marketplace

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Alright we also make it so all porn is on ad.com.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That doesn’t really solve the problem. Nobody will ever willingly go look for ads, meaning the reach is near zero. Modern marketing has largely moved on from the “reach as many people as possible” to “targeted ads reaching the majority of a demographic”, but the core tenant still relies on reach

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

It solves my problem of not having to see them when I don't want to.

[–] brambledog 0 points 11 months ago

I feel that google already perfectly fits this function.

The only other issue is every other tech company wants to share Google's pie.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Let's ban any ads targeted towards kids.

Mmmm, spicy but it needs something.

Let's ban ads. Period.

Oh fuck! Yup, all done now. Wow! Whew!

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's start with billboards.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

They're about the only ads I see anymore

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That is one of the things I really like about the rise of streaming services. You can actually pay to avoid ads, which means that, so far, my kids have basically had a childhood free of TV commercials.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I wish but I don't see the industry going down without a fight, starting with kids would be a reasonable first step towards the destruction of ads.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Honestly I'm just wondering what would count as advertisement for this, because it effectively bans any form of political campaigning, by candidates or ballot measure groups, except through public speaking events.

You could even say door to door sales and solicitation would be banned, which immediately drags the law into a knock down drag out with the Mormons and JWs, because otherwise they can't send their impressionable young members out to be screamed at and treated like nuisances so they come back to the fold jaded about "worldly" folks.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Let's just ban ads. Marketing alone has done irreparable damage to society as a whole.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If ads work, that means you're manipulating minors. Not acceptable.

If ads don't work, that means you're wasting your money.

Either way, there's no reason advertising targeted to to minors should be allowed.

The advertisers believe that targeting ads to kids is effective to manipulate kids to drive purchases of their products. That's fucking diabolical. Anyone who's in the industry and thinks this is OK needs to be taken to a farm.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I didn’t even know ads aimed at kids weren’t banned. You guys ban kinder eggs but not ads?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Kids ads are just extra fucking annoying and they should be banned for that.

"You're a girl. Here's sparkly princess. (Wooooooow! Her head moves!) Help her get to the the ball at Fuckington Castle. (She's almost late! The prince will miss her!). Collect all of.her best friends and brushes. (She made it! Wow, stunning entrance! Everyone noticed). 🎶Sparkly Princess of Fuckingtoooon./🎶"

"You're a boy. My over raspy surfer dude voice from 1992 is all you need to listen to right now. Look at this gun. It's called Bruisinator. Dominate the battlefield with your friends! (They're pushing through! They won't get far! Pew Pew pew pew). Bruisinator lights up with an optical laser and gives tactical commands! (We're surrounded Bruisinator, what do we do?!...."Nice shot!".... What?) Part of the Havoc collection. Be a man. Batteries sold separately."

And I'm like... Why am I seeing this? I don't even have kids and I don't particularly like them. Who are these grown ups doing the voice overs and how funny do their faces look when they're trying to be like this? Is it possible to get toys for kids that don't want a gender role? Why does a seven year old need to toilet train a toy that pees itself? I wonder if any of the kids chucked a massive tantrum on set? These are no different to ads from the 80s, 90, and 00s. They seriously don't change. I wonder how many children are now crying at their parents and screaming "I hate you!" because their parents won't get the Sparkly Princess or the Fuckington Castle?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Well I don't know what that says about me but please sign me up for a Bruisinator or three for Christmas.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I saw one supermarket in my area cover all cartoon characters or similar kid-targeting images on products with stickers saying something like "we don't market to children."

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Agreed, no candy, no video games, no TikTok stuff all of it.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

We need to stop using tax dollars to subsidize fucking sugar (of all kinds). It should be expensive to make the crap, not cheap.

Oh, and then, likely taxed further when we buy it.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mexico has a ban on using cartoon characters on the front of any food packages that have warning labels for high calorie, sugar, saturated fat, trans fat, or sodium content.

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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly kids won't understand the damage of junk food until they get older and it's too late, and the industry knows that.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Kids are also still developing their pallettes. What they eat while they grow completely effects what foods they will desire and associate eating habits with when they grow older. Many junk foods share ingredients and flavours compared to a wider variety of whole foods.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I have zero issues with this. Chester Cheetah shouldn't be allowed to sell chips anymore than Joe Camel. If kids still want it it, let them find it.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Won't anyone think of the junk food manufacturer's profit projections?!

Oh yeah, Congress will.

[–] Apollonius_Cone@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

"Why can't we grow corn when we water it with gatorade?"

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thanks to Reagan and corporate lobbying and also MIchelle Obama being a complete shill, all public school food is mass produced diabetes in a can/bottle/carton^tm^

The chocolate milk has 30g of sugar per serving. All drinks are zero calorie aspartame garbage. Every hot food is just frozen and reheated in an oven. There is no such thing as spice or salt allowed in a school cafeteria. All snacks are baked chips only, no other flavors besides regular and green onion. Fruit is either canned/packaged in dense syrup, or available fresh as a sour apple or orange. Vegetables are reheated cooked slop, or in rare cases provided fresh in a salad bar.

The best bet for anything healthy is probably the orange juice.

It has been more than a decade and I am still immensely pissed off that they took away both regular and spicy funyuns and gave nothing in return >:(

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah without the fiber of the rest of the orange, it's just like drinking a coke.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I remember when my middle school replaced the soda machines with “juice.” Because Minute Maid is somehow healthier than a coke.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Frankly just adopt Europe's food health standards and that itself will probably do some decent numbers on improving public health.

Just don't go after portion size, those dish size comparison pics alone probably drive half of America's international tourism.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

But muh freedumb

[–] RonnieB@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is what needs to be done. Not taxes or bans on the consumer. Target those profiting from increasing our health care costs.