It’s funny/sad how many people take All in the Family at face value, and don’t realize the show runner was liberal as hell and trying to make a point.
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Norman Lear just died a week or two ago. He changed the landscape of television for the better and it was because of him trying to make those points.
How can my ignorant ass ruin him for my uncle then?
At least they have Redd Foxx memes, you big dummy.
I'm fifty and even I consider myself too young for Archie Bunker.
All in the Family was on until 1979 and it was on in reruns for my entire childhood in the 80s.
That’s how I remember it, too. Dad watching reruns while we had dinner. That and MASH.
I'm pushing 40 and I have seen all in the family episodes and recognize the theme song! I was too young to get any context though now I want to watch it!
Boomers suck yadda yadda but the silent generation was also a big voting block! And also raised those assholes. Sorry, tangent.
I was always under the impression that family guy's intro was also a bit of an homage to All in the Family but I don't know how many people would know that or if it's even true
I'm 27 and grew up with it on the TV
TVland STILL runs this show I think
Yep. I was five to six years old by the time it when off the air.
I'm 34. My mom would always tell me that I would say "Archie bunker" is my favorite show as a kid.
Calm down there grandpa. The actor who played Archie Bunker was 46.
I know. So am I.
That scene was one of the most difficult ones to watch (Archie Bunker's Place I think is the name of the spinoff series)
Young 'uns.
So are most people at some point.
I don’t get the reference but I still support you.
Much like your walking stick.
Have you seen my Wether's Originals anywhere?
Yes, they are next to your Life Alert pendent.
Thank you, dearie.
Lmao, I'm your age and literally inhaled a bag of Werther's while I had Covid because Paxlovid tastes so bad. And I'm about to buy a cane for those days when it would be very helpful to make my invisible disability more visible to all those people trying to rush around me in the grocery store. I old.
I love me a Werther's, but I don't feel old enough to buy them by the bag just yet.
Also never seen it - but I named my old laptop Archie Bunchie , and I cant not think that the idea came from the show
Plenty of right-wing toxic masculinity ones out there. Not many actually trying to be funny.
Right wingers making memes of characters that they had absolutely no idea were making fun of them is one of my least favorite meme genres.
Well that's ruined my good time.
It's ok, I've met Carrol O'Conner and he pretty much fits the memes well so his legend will live on in truth at least.
Neat! Care to share the story?
My dad worked in the art department for 'In the Heat of the Night'. I was an extra on one of the extra long season finales. My dad took me to the police station set and he was there being a racist/mysogynistic fuck.
Interesting. I had always heard he was actually a really nice guy. Maybe that was just trying to make it look like the guy who played Archie had a heart because Archie had a heart even though he was a right-wing bigot.
I mean it could have been a momentary thing. Could have just been pissed at something. This was in the south though. So who knows.
A quick duckduckgo search provided several:
Even on more recent topics than Norman Lear's show would have covered.
Not that the above is my opinion.
Good Times memes are dyn-o-mite!
Edit: Oh damn it, Rerun was on What's Happening?
Oh well. The fact that I know what either of those shows are is depressing enough.
I just turned 40 earlier this year (last year for some by now?) and I know and seen all of these shows back in the early 90s, maybe late 80s. There wasn't too much to watch back then, and reruns were always on at night. I know I have seen all the popular stuff from back then, probably not much of the lesser known stuff.
Same. Gulp
i collect these old shows, and this is one has not aged well. i cant actually bring myself to watch the whole run as an adult.
It’s vital to understand that Archie Bunker was written as a bigot intentionally. You’re meant to laugh at him, not with him. The show deliberately addressed controversial social subjects.
The show was made by a liberal, but it suffers from the same problem Rick and Morty suffers from: just because somebody is the protagonist, doesn't mean they're the good guy. But you want to put yourself in the shoes of the protagonist, so you mentally try to make them into the good guy. So when Archie Bunker is a misogynistic racist, it makes you feel bad, but the point is he's not a good guy, it's just hard to separate yourself from the character by that time.
For me, I don’t quite make him the good guy, but I do root for him (in the specific sense that I want to see him grow and become a better person). I understand what you’re concerned about, and it’s a good point.
Not aged well how?
its just not funny. i found myself feeling sorry for the wife constantly... hell everyone in this guys circle. it felt like... hmm.. work to watch.
contrast that with something like taxi or the golden girls, i still find funny.
it kinda of reminds me of mash (not that they are really comparable pieces). i used to watch mash religiously. both hilarious and heartfelt, it it an amazing show. i just cant watch it anymore. the morose, dramatic side of the show is just too much work. the older i get the less i want to deal in dramas.
Interesting. I don't know that I would go back to it again myself, but I do remember liking it when I last saw it. Admittedly, that was many years ago now.
Re M*A*S*H... have you watched the European version without the laugh track? It's almost like watching a different show. The laugh track ruins so much of what Gelbart put into it. I do still enjoy watching it, but without the laugh track. That said, it did get worse in the later seasons, especially after Larry Linville left. And I say that despite really liking what David Ogden Stiers brought to the table.
i have not, but now im on the lookout. id like to at least give it a look. yeah they let alda have way to much creative license also.
have you seen stiers in Creator with peter otool? one of my favorite movies, he is in some of the best scenes.
"one of these days we're going to look into our microscopes and find ourselves staring into gods eyes, and the first one who blinks is going to lose his testicles"
I have not. I will look for it.