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[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 106 points 8 months ago (3 children)

People's Park was a major local landmark with a long history that is well known to students, faculty, residents, and alumni. It had become a home to otherwise homeless people whose existence was inconvenient for the university's expansion plans and an eyesore to arrogant passersby.

The park's history includes both civil and violent disobedience, including against the university itself.

It would not be surprising to hear that, whatever is built on this lot, it is subsequently destroyed by an act of arson or other vandalism.

I am surprised they are taking the risk and making the investment at all. IMO it would have been safer to just buy some of the private properties surrounding the park instead, even at a premium.

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 8 months ago (24 children)

A handful of Molotov's at night once a week during construction can make it very expensive to build something.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Sugar will completely eliminate concrete’s ability to cure. A single pound of sugar can destroy an entire truck of wet cement.

Not that I’m advocating for it. But it’s laughably easy to sneak onto a site with a hardhat, safety boots and a vest, and sabotage active construction.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Neat: https://fritzpak.com/is-sugar-a-good-concrete-retarder/

Although I'm unsure about the pound of sugar to entire cement truck claim.

[–] ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, a cement truck is like 45,000 lbs of concrete, which is .002%. Apparently .06% will delay setting by 90 minutes, so it's more like 30 pounds?

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I low-key wish I could put you and @deegeese@sopuli.xyz in a jar and shake it.

In the nicest way.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

It’s a controversial local issue and in my lifetime I’ve seen local opinion shift from strongly anti-University to now mostly in favor of development.

I credit this to the original activists dying of old age, combined with a younger generation that has never known the park as anything except a place where people overdose in tents.

[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Haha, their take is pretty charged but it's valid imo.

[–] thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're building student and homeless housing on it and leaving half the park.

[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Oh, that's probably going to mitigate some of the risk. Hey, maybe it'll be enough!

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 78 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 72 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Berkeley wants to turn the park into housing and I guess they hope the wall will keep protesters out.

[–] gnate@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago

Surround the park with shipping containers, and done! It is now 100% dystopia appropriate housing!

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Berkeley wants to turn the park where homeless people are staying into housing for homeless and undergraduates... While refreshing 60% of the park.

Why are people upset about housing homeless and undergrads? Is this some NIMBY shit but people dont think it's NIMBY because it's their park this time?

https://peoplesparkhousing.berkeley.edu/

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Obviously people are upset because public space is being taken away for this.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Berkeley is a public school. They’re building government housing. But, it doesn’t matter to the groups who see outrage as a virtue and stall the progress they neverendingly clamor for.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Yes... That's what NIMBYism is.

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[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah wtf haha

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 68 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The shipping containers make it so much more dystopian, and calling it “The People’s Park” is just bad writing, even for schlocky YA fiction.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even more dystopian if you know the park's history

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do, but I was writing from the perspective that it was invented for the Hunger Games.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I didn't intend to imply that you didn't.

[–] Damdy@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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[–] hikikoma@ani.social 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So this is why all the third places have dissappeared, greed? Man, fuck this dystopia.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Parents tell their kids to go play outside, without looking at the "outside" they've created.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

New paintball arena just dropped.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

fascinating hunger games is having such a cultural resurgence given how shitty everything in our world is. i love the series but christ every scene is dark and depressing

[–] effward@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Didn't a new Hunger Games movie just hit theaters? I assumed most of this stuff was a result of their marketing campaign..

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[–] Feirdro@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Feels prescient, at the moment

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 8 months ago

I cannot wait until they finally pave over that violent shithole.

People’s Park supporters have their heads so far up their asses they can’t smell the meth’d up rapists that have kept anyone else from enjoying this “park”

[–] LemmySoloHer@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

May the odds be ever in your favor.

[–] Crow@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Gives me infamous vibes.

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kowloon, the walled city...

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Nope, just chuck testa with another realistic dead shipping container wall

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