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"I feel like this is wrong, but I don't know enough about ~~stars~~ The Middle East to disprove it"

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 5 months ago

Including the US in the Middle East Friendship Chart is an admission of the US as a global imperialist empire.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

....this chart has Iraq and the US as FRIENDS? I know enough about that to know this chart is mainly wrong

[-] Ardipithecus@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

It's just so reductive and silly!

[-] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure this chart is pretty old, so presumably this was while Iraq was still directly occupied (i know that never really ended, but you get the point) and their government was literally just a translation service for the State Department and Department of War.

[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah, that country that decimated iraq's infrastructure for a decade and caused untold human suffering and refuses to abandon its military occupation despite a formal government request? Best of allies.

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

Political Compass [Middle East Edition] (Nuancecore Remix) {Gone Wrong}

[-] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 27 points 5 months ago

The relationship between the United States & itself is complicated, not necessarily friendly.

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I'm thinking of it's self-serving behavior in a middle east context.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

AKA the John Kirby cheat sheet.

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

not filling in the diagonal is cowardice.

[-] Melonius@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Friendship with Isis ended

Now Iraq is best friend

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

I say it every time something like this happens. Stop giving graphs to liberals. They must be constrained to writing only. No visual aids, no graphs, no figures, no charts, no diagrams. I would even go as far to put them on notice for outlines, lists, and rundowns.

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Isn't it weird that the only non middle east entity on this chart is the US?

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

no-oil They put their countries around our military bases

[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

Pokemon weakness chart

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a weird mixture of surprisingly knowledgeable and laughably bad

Like It's accurate that Iran Hamas aren't friends

But ISIS is Israel + US backed/controlled, and Palestinian Authority and Israel are definitely not enemies

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

They lump "We get off on stoking hostility toward them, but we have a discreet involvement in their existence" as "Enemies".

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

The new Connect Four looks really complicated and I don't want to play anymore.

[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

Who knows what hezbollah thinks about hamas. Surely they hate israel for entirely separate reasons

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

This is peak liberal vibes-based geopolitical theory

[-] Ardipithecus@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

Just found it's from 2014...

https://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html

...don't know if that makes it worse or not.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 months ago

States don't have friends, they have interests.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

So many layers of braindead, I feel dumber the longer I look at it.

[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

who tf made this

[-] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Saudi Arabia 😞 Al Qaeda????

[-] 4zi@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Lanyard zodiac chart

[-] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Those emojis are awful

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

You can tell the US is friends with Iraq based on how Iraq has demanded the US pull out their military forces but the US still has its military there.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

I have felt many times like I had to create a version of this for all my radical friends.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Does this check out, any obvious wrong ones here?

[-] HexBroke@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The US effectively created ISIS and ran guns from Libya to Syria which ended up in their hands so...

[-] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I don't think I would call Iraq and USA friends

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

Can someone make that fucked up green smiley into an emote on here?

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

They are trying to bullshit people away from us and our "friends" having a direct hand in arming and helping terrorists. That the media is not gaslighitng the public.

Take Hamas - they are not tied to Al Qaida.if anything Israel and the US have a "complicated" relation to Al Qaida and ISIS.

Such as

IDF chief finally acknowledges that Israel supplied weapons to Syrian rebels

[Fighters were armed and paid to keep Iranian-linked forces away from Israel’s border.]

When Israel has stolen Syrian land and plans to annex even more land via it's "Greater Israel" plan.

There's operation cyclone where the US armed the precursor to Al Qaida the Mudhajeen.

Operation Tymber Sycamore

Initially President Obama rejected the proposal, but later agreed, partially due to lobbying by foreign leaders, including from King Abdullah II of Jordan and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

US-backed rebels often fought alongside al-Qaeda's al-Nusra Front against Ba'athist forces, and some of the US-supplied weapons were seized by the al-Nusra Front. This had been a major concern within the Obama administration when the program was first proposed in 2012. There were also allegations of U.S.-backed militias carrying out summary killings of detainees

Priti Patel visited a hospital that treats jihadis

And then ISIS being in the center of the chart with "no friends" .... I mean those weapons and funding just appear out of thin air!

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

ISIS and Israel should probably have an It's Complicated

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Iran 😘 Iraq Famously historical friends, no notes.

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