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A landlord from Poland divided his apartment into 25 rooms of 6 square meters and rented them out for $320/month per room. (hexbear.net)
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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This happens in South Africa too. Building in the city centre gets hijacked/stolen by these "landlords", that divide all the existing rooms using makeshift materials, and then charge rent for basically living inside a shack inside a stolen abandoned apartment building. Very dangerous, one of these buildings burnt down recently and a lot of people died.

For those that want an international source, CNN did some coverage on it

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Poland stop being a garbage fire challenge. Difficulty level: not actually burning actual garbage at record levels that can be observed from space.

dumpster-fire poland-cool dumpster-fire

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

A landlord from Poland divided ~~his apartment~~ into 25 ~~rooms of 6 square meters and rented them out for $320/month per room.~~

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When you look at one of those awful Hong Kong cage apartments and think: "Yes."

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some lib will defend this as environmentally friendly

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

give me like 20% more space and access to nice communal food and recreation areas and I'm game for sleeping in a little box tbh. But this isn't that.

[–] janny@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i've lived like this and trust me you don't want this. the place becomes infested with bugs and mold and the fridge becomes unusuable because it's so full and you end up eating out way more which kills alot of the money you saved by living in a shithole.

Plus god forbit you don't wake up 2 hours before work and you have to choose between go to work smelling like shit or being 45 minutes late because there's a line to the shower

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That sounds like you've substituted the word "nice" in the comment you're replying to for the word "disgusting" and acting like they wrote it

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the fridge becomes unusuable because it's so full

Not because it's the source of the mold. Even if it's a double-fridge, with 25 people you're probably going to get it hopelessly filled.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, have multiple refrigerators or a larger one? This problem is made up

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Having furnishings extensive enough to avoid all of the logistical problems involved here would mean basically being in an entirely different situation, because you need quite a lot to have 25 people not stepping on each other's toes when all each of them has individually is a tiny bedroom.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The fall of the Soviet Union and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Is this the dream of every Westerner to own property that they can rent out? I hear a lot of this from Americans and Canadians about how they want to get into real estate.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's not just a westerner thing, look at China before Mao's reforms. Look at parts of South Africa now. Feudal economic conditions lead to this kind of rent seeking behaviour being taken to the extreme. It's why Adam Smith hated landlords so much, the whole point of capitalism, to those that actually belive in it, is that's it's a progression from feudalism. So this kind of extreme rent seeking behaviour should not be a part of capitalism, according to what I refer to as utopian and idealistic capitalists. However, in actually existing capitalism, neo feudal economic conditions are recreated over time as the rate of profit falls. Which leads to this kind of behaviour and landlord worship.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Chinese landlords pre Mao were more feudal lords than people renting out residential properties

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So were the people Smith calls "landlords," (who were generally renting land for farming, not shelter, as they also did in China). His point stands, it's just a different type of rent extraction.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

And the people renting out residential properties are becoming more and more feudal in their tactics as time passes. Like in this post about the guy subdividing his apartment in Poland, to take advantage of a refugee crisis with the war next door.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's capitalism confronted with finite resources, everyone just want to be a renter and reap what they don't sow

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Yes. I have a cousin who bought a place and is renting it out rather than living there because she can't actually afford the mortgage on her own salary. She's living with my aunt for free.

It's bad, folks. took-restraint

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yep, I know a 22 year old who's current financial goals in life is looking for rental properties to buy within the next year in his cheap hometown so his parents can manage it

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My cousin who is 18 plans on getting a house with friends so she can get her friends to pay the mortgage via rent

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Pay HER mortgage? That's incredibly deranged if so

Me and 4 of my friends at the beginning of uni considered buying a townhouse and then selling it after we graduate lol

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

wild that's almost exactly my landlord

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Depressing news there are zoomers that are becoming landlords already

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some see it as a survival strategy for when they reach retirement age doomjak

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jesus. You guys should live down here where the government can't reach us and we build our own houses with the community. Only downsides are very awful internet access and spotty electricity. That, and you need to grow and harvest your own food.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Tom Bombadil approved lifestyle

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You've got your "Good Morning" posting, well this is my "Dzień Dobry"

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Welp, as the Polski say

Tylko jedno glowie mam...

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

What an innovating and enterprising individual, bucking the trends of past inefficiencies to provide more efficient cost effective housing to people who need it most. This brave soul truly embodies the best of the Spirit of Capitalism, and the world is better for it!!

flannel-yellow

[–] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Therapist: Rimworld apartments aren't real

[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

At least the floor isn't just dirt and pools of insect blood like in my early bases... right?

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of course not. Rimworld apartments have a communal common area that is as luxurious as the situation permits, and sometimes have enough room for a double bed.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A good rimworld base is a paradise. Just make sure that the insectoids don't spawn in your storage cavern like mine

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Embrace Hoxhaist thought and make every corridor a bunker.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

$53 per square meter per month... jesus-christ

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually think there's something here for homelessness prevention. Like, take that company that is doing legal tent encampments and make them do tinyhouse style apartments with the bare minimum of space, offered for free to anyone that needs it. Would need an exception for current housing laws but like it's better than under a bridge.

What's the bare minimum for a human to have all the necessities? 100sqft? The minimum in NYC now is 150sqft and those people are paying through the nose for it.

[–] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You need to dream bigger than giving people 6m² in a cramped appartment with shared bathrooms and kitchens. Absolutebrainworms shit. You could just make more appartments and be less evil.