The problem here is that we all lose. They ignored the warnings about climate change but now we all suffer the effects of it.
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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The climate hasn't changed, the humans have changed.
We had electric cars over 100 years ago, and surprise surprise, those things didn't explode into hellfire.
I'm confused by this because the climate is indeed changing
Good, my confusing comment got you to thinking about these sort of things...
Now reverse my comment to back before the industrial/oil age, if humans hadn't mucked so much with nature, we wouldn't be anywhere near this predicament we seem to be in today...
Your comments confuse me. What the hell are you trying to say?
nobody knows, but it's provocative
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Feels like you are going to propose developing a time machine instead of just doing literally anything else about it.
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The climate is only changing because the humans are rapidly changing.
Name me one other species that refines and burns gasoline, diesel, etc...
If humans had never interfered, the climate would be much more stable.
Where should the energy for electric vehicles come from? of course, I understand that living somewhere in Europe, you can talk about wind turbines, solar panels and everything green. But if you live in a region where, if the heating is turned off, you can freeze to death in less than a day, you start looking at wind turbines and solar panels with irony.
And I don't really understand, besides, how exactly replacing some energy emissions in random places with other emissions in random places will greatly help to cool the planet.
in norway all the power is hydroelectric, and it’s been that way for the past 100 years.
and i don’t understand how wind turbines, solar panels, or “everything green” is somehow exclusive to europe.
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Nuclear, but the climate people are too big of pussies to push for it. Can't have the peasents enjoying cheap energy!
Nuclear has always been expensive af. It's just "cheap" because all the real costs are not carried by the providers, but the states. Try getting an insurance for a nuclear power plant, have to find a solution for the waste. Besides that just take a look at the French: having to shut down mamy of their nuclear power plants, because the rivers don't have enough water to cool them down these days. On the other hand renewables, that are much faster build and way cheaper, are amortized after a few years.
Honestly, I'm at the point now that I believe that if you follow the money and memes, you'll find the oil industry pushing the anti nuclear ideas. The anti nuclear environmentalists being useful idiots to them.
That being said, even if you can't use green energy everywhere isn't an excuse to use it everywhere it could be used. At the very least, it would buy use more time to figure out more solutions. The people who are saying that EVs don't help because our electricity is primarily from gas and coal are deliberately leaving out the fact that the demand and infrastructure of solar and wind are also rising. Not having EVs would only lessen the demand and makes me suspicious about the origin of that meme as well.
Nuclear energy is the solution, even though it's the boogeyman thanks to smear campaigns. Coal plants release more radiation than nuclear plants.
replacing some energy emissions in random places with other emissions in random places will greatly help to cool the planet.
We're not talking a 1:1 moving emissions around with electrifying everything. Even if the local grid is 100% fossil fuels a large stationary fossil fuel powered plant running 24/7 can be more efficient per unit of fuel than thousands of tiny little poorly maintained gasoline engines in vehicles, especially when the car's engine spends so much of its time far outside of it's most efficient ranges (idling, speeding, going up hills, etc.) Not to mention how capturing polutants at the plant is far more doable than capturing polutants from every single car.
And even if you don't believe the green arguments, electric cars are just plain cool! They cost a few dollars per full recharge to charge compared to $30-50 per gas tank, they often regulate their internal temperature while charging so no waiting ages for the car to warm up first thing in the morning while you scrap ice off the windows, and who doesn't love the instant insane torque that an electric motor provides? Lower maintenance costs, longer lifetimes of individual vehicles (especially as battery technologies continue to improve by leaps and bounds) plus idling is basically free so drive-thrus, listening to music while parked and stop go traffic wastes way less gas. Regenerative breaking not only provides some free charge to the motors but also spares your breaks so they last way longer. The list of benefits goes on and on
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Imagine hating a child for "shuffles deck" caring about the planet she lives on.
No-no-no-no-no Dont you understand?? She's one of those extreme esss-jay-double-uuu libearls!!
How to tell the world your testosterone levels have peaked and the decline is making you a bit cranky.
Peaked? I haven’t even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you’ll know. Because I’m gonna peak so hard that everybody in Lemmy’s gonna feel it. I shall unleash my fury upon you like the crashing of a thousand waves! Begone, vile little girl! Begone from me! This car is a finisher car! A transporter of gods! The golden god! I am untethered, and my rage knows no bounds!
— That guy probably
She's living in their heads rent free
That's not the same car.
But thats how to get attention.
It's a big problem that even if the situation describes itself people make collages of pictures that have no direct relation just to make a point.
Ironically this behavior undermines the actual goal because it shifts the debatte to "this is fake" not to "Housten, we have a problem.".
And most ironically: My comment underlines the debatte shift even more.
Hoomans are fucked.
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Humans will come and go. The earth will continue doing it's thing. I'm more concerned with the crazies throwing trash out of their cars or not bringing their shopping cart to the shopping cart areas.
In the words of late great George Carlin, "The planet is not going anywhere. We are. We're going away."
That's not human but corporation with inability to fix products, shrinkflation, shortening life cycle of product with software update.
We are paying higher price but corporations are using raw metrials and power inefficient
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