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[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 143 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Meanwhile actual pro audio engineers: haha 15yo $70 MDR-7506 gaffed taped together go brrr

[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 62 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Most people wouldn't actually like professional audio engineering headphones as the EQ is purposely set as flat as possible.

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 34 points 7 months ago

That's why some headphones are referred to as reference and others as "fun"

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm a huge metalhead and bass is really the most important frequency in metal. But I hate the sound of my favorite bands in bass-forward headphones like Beats. I never could understand why people like to hear the music in a sound that's different than the one your favorite band intended it to be. I love flat headphones, but it's so hard to find them nowadays.

[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 22 points 7 months ago

What you have to realize is the final mix of tracks that generally end up in the public's hand are tailored towards what the average person is going to be listening to them on and unfortunately that usually means phone and laptop speakers that simply do not have the frequency range and dynamic range to reproduce what the band intending.

Another thing is some people just really enjoyed their music bass heavy where as others might enjoy more midbass to get that kick drum that slaps you. It's all down to preferences.

It's not that difficult to find flat EQ headphones, the keyword you are looking for is "reference headphones" and "mixing headphones". Personally I use the ath-m50x although after about a decade of hard use the highs on mine are starting to sound pretty harsh.

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[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

'Audiophiles': "Yeah I paid $20000 for this new DAC, I think the treble is a lot crispier"
Actual audio engineers: "I record everything with this $40 Behringer interface and mix with free plugins though my 30 year old Yamahas"

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[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

I'm using my dad's MVR-V6s that he bought at least 30 years ago, I really can't find a justification to 'upgrade'. If these ever break I'll just grab some MDR-7506s

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

Music tech. teacher. I still rock my pair of 7506 from 20 years ago. They are not ideal for mixing bass tho, but otherwise really solid.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 110 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Audiophiles don't listen to music. They use music to listen to their equipment.

[–] BuryMyHorse@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nah its just like hot peppers. When you work your way up, all you can taste js heath. As you move up the scovile scale you can actually taste the distinct flavour of the hot pepper.

Same with audio. Once you have better gear (doesnt need to equal $$$$) you tend to hear layers (and spacial definition) of music you wouldn't be able to hear trough a lesser setup (as long as you have a good source, like flac/24bit wav etc)

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I have tinnitus, so tbh I've probably already over-specced my audio setup given I still have to listen using my own faulty hardware as the final step in the chain

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 57 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It's actually the pre-amp and DAC quality that matter-- OH NO WHAT HAVE I BECOME?!

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Bluetooth Earbuds!"

"Stop it Patrick! You're scaring him!"

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bluetooth 5 is actually high enough bandwidth to transmit pretty good sound.

Earbuds are sad though, but all things are compromises. Am I blissing out to Bach using my bone conduction earbuds? no it sounds kinda meh. It does let me not get hit by drivers or brick due to sweat damage listening to books on a run though so they're good at what they're trying to do.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 44 points 7 months ago (17 children)

The Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 is probably the only headphones most of us will ever need. I use my first gen (ATH-M50xBT) for everything from Bluetooth audio, to gaming and music production.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

YOOOO WHAT i actually use those rn (the bt2) and i like them a tonne. only that my hair gets caught on the sharp edges a lot and its super painful, and the mic quality being bad (but i have a dedicated mic for that anyway at home). kinda thought to buy a new pair but i already have something extremely good and i dont really use the mic a lot

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I always found theic to be there as a "if you need it, it exists" feature, not a selling point.

I recently saw that Finneas (Billie Eilish's brother and an incredibly talented producer) mains the M50x as his studio monitors. They are probably one of the best $200 you can spend for audio related things.

(Forward to 5:50) https://youtu.be/WmPZLz5k-Lc?si=Zm-gokaE9sNQZisl

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[–] sidekickplayah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Holy shit headphones!

A buddy at work got me onto the craze, maybe not $1000 range, but def in the hundreds. I used to have a pair of grados I modded to be detachable (they were later stolen :(.. ). Based on those he recommended me Fostex T50rps, which are currently my big daddy, pure enjoyment headphones. I modded those for greater comfort and sound, and I love them to death. He was also generous enough to give me a pair of tinhfi earbuds, I love those for crystal clear audio. And relevant to the first pic, my sister got me portapros for christmas, and I absolutely adore them for everyday use. And the retro design just sends it that much higher. I also modded them to have detachable cables, couldn't do with the flimsy ones they came with. I also ended up getting a DAP, which wasn't too necessary, but I couldn't pass on the aesthetic of just having a player on my desk with the album art always showing. Just trying to grow my FLAC collection now, God I love music.

Just had to gush a little. Thanks for reading.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you in this picture, comrade?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I would be if i wasn't so broke. I get closer and closer to this image with every paycheck

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[–] kn100@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Get yourself a generally well regarded set of headphones, then look into HTTPS://AUTOEQ.app, and you'll have a great time. You don't have to go ridiculous to get amazing audio.

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[–] Abucketofpuppies@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

A good audio setup makes a huge difference! But I wouldn't spend more than like 200 dollars if all you want is clean sound.

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not gonna lie, them Beyer Dynamics are bangin'.

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[–] WeeScottishMan@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What's funny is that the cheaper ksc75 (ksc75x) also by koss like the porta pros, are highly regarded as a great budget headphone by most audiophiles.

They can be modded like the porta pros with a headphone band, new pads and removable cable but as long as you look after them they don't need to be.

They're comfortable, cheap and sound great. Not for bass heads though.

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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but the difference between 320kbps ogg and FLAC is night and day and this is the hill I’ll die on.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's no difference between 320kbps mp3 and flac and that's a hill I'll die on. Try using some of those blind "mp3 vs flac" websites and it's indistinguishable.

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[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

difference between 44 and 96khz is even bigger imo

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (9 children)

It's two dimensions. You need both good bit depth (kbps) and sample rate (Hz) for quality. But yeah 96 kHz is more than double 44 so of course it's significantly better.

There is however a point of diminishing returns and I'd certainly say that's in play beyond 320 kbps (or beyond 96 kHz for that matter).

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 17 points 7 months ago (13 children)

I'd suggest some open backed headphones for home use. They really change how things sound making them sound a bit more natural especially in games. You can get sub-$100 ones as well. Biggest downside is your can't really get wireless ones.

Also has anyone else found that BT headsets on Windows don't work? Windows forces a different driver when you use the mic and everything sounds like crap.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

the sad thing is, the amount of people who could actually discern, and take advantage of, higher end audio are a small minority... the rest are just admiring the Emperor's new clothes

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Porta pros are hands down the best headphones under $100. They sound great, are very comfy, and have a satisfyingly long battery life if you get the Bluetooth ones. The only downside is you look like a big dork when you wear them.

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[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 7 months ago

$150 OCC cable? What a bargain!

To be fair, that cable is very danceable.

[–] Brickardo@feddit.nl 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Loudspeaker enjoyers, arise!

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[–] ambrosiaforest@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

im good with my beyerdynamic dt 770s

[–] pelicans_plight@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Yeah I'm good with my Beyerdynamic 250 ohm DT 990 Editions...

But I did need an external amp to push them...

Well I could use an EQ to smooth them out a bit...

OK, so I love gaming, going to need another EQ and a good mixer...

Well that was nice, but now I really need a mix amp for gaming and splitting of my mic...

Looks like I need a better mic... I wonder if I should go XLR..........

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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I listen to music on my phone's speaker. Fight me.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 24 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I'll fight you if I catch you doing that in public. Might even murder you if I'm feeling cute.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Fr, everyone knows you should have the decency to at least bring a Bluetooth speaker with you so the whole train can hear.

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[–] kjtms@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Any real audiophile would never increase any frequency in an EQ. Got berated for that once

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[–] frowningfrog@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Havn't seen anyone speak about the Sony WH-1000XM3 yet. Obviously not as an "audiophile" product, but I've been a happy user for 5 years. Worth every penny.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

5 years

Well, fuck you for making me realize how time is passing (I have the XM2 set for occasional use & never realized it has been that long).

I'm absolutely not going to think about the age of my other headsets I probably think are only 'a few years old'.

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[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I only have one thing to say.

Give me wires or give me death.

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