arent the oldest gen z in their mid 20s? bit early to be handwringing about this but i assume millennials are also not really having kids at the same rate as Xers and boomers.
this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2024
66 points (100.0% liked)
videos
22709 readers
75 users here now
Breadtube if it didn't suck.
Post videos you genuinely enjoy and want to share, duh. Celebrate the diversity of interests shared by chapochatters by posting a deep dive into Venetian kelp farming, I dunno. Also media criticism, bite-sized versions of left-wing theory, all the stuff you expected. But I am curious about that kelp farming thing now that you mentioned it.
Low effort / spam videos might be removed, especially weeb content.
There is a cytube that you can paste videos into and watch with whoever happens to be around. It's open submission unless there's something important to commandeer it with at the time.
A weekly watch party happens every Saturday (Sunday down under), with video nominations Saturday-Monday, voting Monday-Thursday. See the pin for whatever stage it's currently in.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Most people I know that did have kids didn't do so until their early 30s, about half of those that did are also housing insecure and the other half have close to 6 figure incomes.
I know many children wanters but I don't know many children afforders
This shit is so tiresome. Fix material conditions that's literally it
They're just taking articles from the mid 2010s about millennials not having kids or fuckin and just find and replacing millennial with zoomer.
Then they wonder why it just keeps happening
Elon Musk said the h'wite race is dying 
Now that Abe is dead the curse of not boning should be lifted, right? Right? 
life for zoomer has been like this so yeah, of course they ain't fuckin'
Gen Z is too young to even have stats on this. There is a decline in TFR due to the contradictions of capitalism so I expect this will be the case, but how can you say this when the oldest zoomers just reached average childbearing age?
The oldest zoomers are nearing 30 what do you mean?
The average age to have kids in the US is 27
The 27 stat seems a few years old, 2022 census has median child bearing at 30
Which is nearing 30 yes.
Yea which means iridaniotter was correct in saying the oldest zoomers just reach average childbearing age.
Yes but we all know that statistic is already skewed due to people having children at an older age than past generations. If they’re reaching the average childbearing age now, that’s already older than past averages. I guess I’m more so commenting on the part where they said how it was possible to have statistics on this when Gen Z is barely at average childbearing age. It’s possible because they’re comparing it to past generations.
Roughly two-thirds of 25-29 year olds are childless, and we have no idea what % of that two-thirds will choose to have kids in their 30's
Yes that means they’re already older than previous generations for having children that’s my point.
I thought your point is gen z's old enough now to have stats on if they'll have kids or not. I'm saying we'll have to wait until they're several years older to get an idea on if they're never having them or just pushing it off
Also, the oldest, borderline gen zers will have very similar numbers to the youngest millennials. you'd wanna get a scope of middle gen z and the average zoomer is still like 19/20
The point of the initial poster was that how can you know what the trend for having children at whatever age is already for Gen Z if they just reached the average age to have children? But they’re already trending older than the average of past generations. You don’t really need to wait another 5 or 10 years, the trend is already there and the causes for that trend don’t look to be going away anytime soon.
So half of the people have kids later than that. An average isn't a median.
You've got it mixed up, if the median age was 27 half would be younger. With the average, it's possible only 40% are younger, but they are having them significantly younger. Maybe 40% have kids at 22, and 60% at 29.
You're right, I'm in no state to be making posts where I say math stuff rn. Ten hour absolutely brutal kitchen day. I did the thing I was calling out.
there's some confederate states where they keep stats on repeat teen pregnancy so that might mess up the math a bit
Aren't they at most...25? I mean most people just don't want to have kids that young anyways?
Yeah fr. Are they complaining about the lack of teen pregnancy??
there is some weird blood and soil type shit going around lately i wouldnt be surprised
Hmm...I wonder why the birth rate has been declining since 1950...Can't have anything to do with declining material conditions, can it? 
It's less due to raw material conditions and more due to growing contradiction between socialized production and private reproduction. That's why peasants had much bigger birth rates while having worse quality of life.
Interesting. What are some resources that elaborate on this?
Wouldn't that have also been due to the fact that infant mortality was absolutely awful back in those days?
gen z is 12-27 and people are having kids later and later
27? Really? Pretty sure that's a young millennial. I'm 24 and I feel like I'm barely gen z.
yeah it's 1996-2012, altho i'd say people close to the edge (like '96-99 or '09-12) are kinda in between generational culture and more zillennial or zalpha than proper zoomers. I'm core gen z and I think pretty much everyone my age would assume 25+ as millennial
Idk, at least in the US, the cultural marker for the millenial/genz divide was "do you remember 9/11?" Someone born in 1996 definitely remembers 9/11.
protip, dont worry about it, it's irrelevant (its still fun to call people boomers though)
Weird, I guess it's the whole thing where dating apps are intentionally designed to retain users and therefore revenue, but none of the people in my orbit who are child-free or would rather not reproduce can find others. They get likes and they're all from people who list "want kids".
social life in general is declining
I have yet to see someone explain to why anyone who is not a white nationalist, a religious nut, or a capitalist, should give a rip about whether why people aren't having kids.
I think it only matters in so much as it is a reflection on the general well being of a population; people have kids when they feel optimistic for the future, and have their needs met. In my view it isn't so much a desired end state as it is a barometer in the health of a society
Give me a chance for a habitable biosphere and maybe I'd be inclined to create people to habitate it. You [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] that should be [redacted] into the closest pit, trench, cistern or bog.
Whoa, let's not pollute our cisterns or stress our delicate bog ecosystems if we can help it
gotta ban contraceptives i guess
The Myth of "Consensual" Proletarian Non-Procreation
I consent! 
I consent!
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask!?
Uncritical support for Goth Hillary Clinton. Its her turn.
Boomers: Why aren't Gen Z having kids?
Everybody: Did you try asking them?
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: