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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 198 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So drinking a real-world cow's milk is ok, but drinking a Zootopia cow's milk would not be ok because... the Zootopia cow is presumably a full member of society who earns a living by consensually being milked?

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (10 children)

It would be a little strange to eat ice cream from consensually milked women tbh

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well then you definitely don't wanna google that.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OK I'll add that to the list of things I'll never google.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

You should live a little and Google it ;)

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why?

If the women are fine with it, get a wage from it and can quit any time they choose to, where is the problem?

And just to add to the pile: humans can lactate without the need for pregnancy - even males - and some women can develop a condition called hyperlactation where the body goes full throttle on producing milk, beyond any needs of an infant. And never stop, in very extreme cases.

Sounds a good deal more sustainable and fair than cows milk and a heck lot more efficient than milking trees.

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Maybe I'm being cynical but I think humans would find a way to exploit this market and make women suffer, just like we can do with cattle.

Inject women with hormones to make them produce more milk is an example I can think of.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 69 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is why we need a strong, massive milkers union

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean milk producers union?

Because the milkers would be those paying for the milk to resell it.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No the milkers are the titties, they were trying to be clever.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it was a stretch, I'll let this one pass

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

Thank you. Very courteous of you.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I'm talking about some serious mommy milkers

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

No kinky business

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, the use of hormones in milk cattle is banned. And hormones in humans have severe life lasting side effects.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And hormones in humans have severe life lasting side effects.

Not having hormones has pretty severe effects. Women who've gone through menopause (or had ovaries removed) and don't produce hormones often get prescribed hormones to prevent things like osteoporosis. Men with low testosterone get prescribed it. Children who don't produce hormones don't go through puberty--in the past, they castrated boys with pretty voices so they'd never have their voice break, and that had severe health consequences on the boys turned into eunuchs.

I'm saying all of this because when it comes to "hormones", you kinda have to be specific. You can't just throw it out there like, "oOooOO! Hormones! Scary!" Otherwise you get into a realm similar to how people hear "dihydrogen monoxide" and don't make the connection between the "scary science word" and the fact that dihydrogen monoxide is water and is necessary for life.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

Sometimes I really hate the english language...

Back there, when I mention hormones, it is implied it is non necessary for the normal functioning of the organism.

In my language, using the word "hormones" in a conversation immediatly carries the meaning it is something artificially added, like hormone therapy for menopausal women or hormone therapy for transgender individuals or even for people with thyroid problems.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they pay hazard pay and people willingly contribute, what’s the issue?

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

At first glance, none.

But then "willingness" and "money" rarely mix well. Yeah, there are humans "willing" to be paid for their plasma but it's a marginalized part of the population trying to have just enough money to survive.

I'm sorry. I'm trying not to ruin the meme any further.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People donate blood, plasma, sperm and breast milk from all walks of life already. Some get paid too.

If you want it to be about a particular group in can be, but even well off people donate/get money for their bodily fluids.

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Donation is one thing completely different than selling their fluids. There's no incentive to exploit people when there's not a payback in cash.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And people sell them too already. They aren’t exploited.

Yeah there will be people that try to abuse it, that applies to literally everything in life and should never be the reason to not do something.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (16 children)

it's the definition of exploitation

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[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I once went to an ice cream fair where local women had collected their breast milk to make a breast milk ice cream. It was actually delicious

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I think you just awakened something in me

[–] don@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Strangely, there exist those who would find it to be the furthest thing from strange, jsyk

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So a few years a go, an old friend i was visiting asked if i wanted cream in my coffee. She checked the upstairs fridge, then went downstairs and came back with glass of milk. Halfway through my coffee i started to wonder why she was hiding a grin. Yes, she had a three month old.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

That’s really fucked up to do to someone without telling them

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That’s gonna be a no from me dawg lmao

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But from a non consusual women is fine. Gotcha.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not exactly lol I was thinking from a consensually milked livestock but it’s all a little weird sounding isn’t it? Lol

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[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Only a little strange?

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Human milk is only really strange to us because we normalized drinking cow milk. I see no reason why it'd be odd for zotopia animals to drink cow milk as well. If anything I'd imagine they'd consider the idea of adults drinking milk childish. Irl most adult animals are lactose intolerant so I'd imagine most likely the ice cream in the movie is just sherbet. Ice cream in this universe is probably a dessert for children.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Your right, we need to start selling breast milk.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Homelander has entered the chat.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We already do that

And in ice cream form as well

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Baby Gaga ice cream seems to have run into legal trouble so I’m not sure if it’s still around but you can look at fansly

The nice thing about the official company is that they tested it

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

His right, your left?

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

We already do sell breast milk.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've had human breast milk ice cream. it was ok..

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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's probably not considered weird in their society. Just another job.