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[–] abfarid@startrek.website 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Do vampires have graves, actually? They sleep in unburied coffins, and when they die they usually burn and stuff. Right?

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Dracula, which is probably as good as we get for established vampire cannon, two quite different vampire coffin based shenanigans happen that stand out to me:

  1. Lucy Westenra is preyed upon by Dracula to the point of death, where she is entombed in a coffin within a crypt. As the curse takes effect, she rises at night to hunt local children but returns to the coffin each night. This is where her undeath comes to an end as the hero's defeat her here.

  2. Our titular character and general vampire icon, Dracula, has a scheme to set up home in London. He does so by moving 50 boxes of dirt (I believe Transylvanian earth) to different locations around London as he needs them to sleep in. I can't remember if these are canonically coffins or just dirt boxes he sleeps in. Regardless, it's definitely not where his grave lies. He was however buried in the tomb within the chapel of his castle, where he later rose in undeath.

So I'd say in all of Bram Stoker's accounts, vampirism restores a being to undeath some time after they perish, and this place is essential to their rest, meaning they must rest there in a deathlike state, or take their burial place with them, such as the dirt of their grave (which sounds like a legal loophole God should have spotted). They aren't always returning to their grave every night, but the rules say they must, so they make do with moving what God sees as their burial place via moving their earth that entombed them.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Vampire canon = body of official literature regarding vampires.

Vampire cannon= device for launching vampires using gunpowder.

[–] Vagabondshad@ttrpg.network 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

A cannon seems redundant as most vampire lore allows them to fly or transform into something enabling flight. Maybe a cannon is for rapid deployment of vampires? The question then is how do you prevent immolation during firing?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Encase the vampire in a sabot first.

[–] ParanoiaComplex@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

They wear daredevil suits to reduce air resistance

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The question then is how do you prevent immolation during firing?

Why bother? Vampires can only die in specific ways, and I'm pretty sure I've never seen "getting shot out of a cannon" on that list

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Infynis@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Old_Fat_White_Guy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

We're going to try the myth that if a vampire is fired out of a cannon, using his coffin as a sabot, into a picket fence.... will the resultant impaling be enough to render the undead dead dead.

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Fire often is, which is a possible side effect of gunpowder

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was super excited for a minute thinking maybe we were getting a movie about vampire circus performers hurtling through the air.

Ok, so I like bad movies.

[–] joranvar@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago

(Spoilers for Hollow Knight: The Grimm Troupe)

This reminds me of a certain boss in that expansion. Enjoy!

[–] StraySojourner@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

A lot of eastern European folklore ascribes more zombie-like qualities to vampires. Living out of a grave is one.

[–] HeyJ@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago

As far as folklore goes, they were buried in coffins face down, so when they tried to emerge they would instead go straight down.

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 5 points 7 months ago

Perhaps that's why they tend to refer to them as crypts.