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Gamers like to make it sound like $70 is a new thing today for video games. When, I've seen adverts of games back in late 90s and early 90s that were priced $70. It's always been around so I find it ridiculous that so many of them complain that the pricing is too high when, it's been a thing.

Even more dumb is that sales are stupidly frequent so why even bother trying to pay $70 anyways besides FOMO.

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[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I think the issue with the price thing is that it's more the rule rather than the exception. Back then maybe you got a super deluxe for 70, now 70 just gets you the base game.

In any event: the Apple Vision Pro is one. Apple puts out a VR headset that essentially does what any 800 dollar headset does for much more money and everyone loses their shit saying how revolutionary it is. It's not.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

If $70 got you the full game, I wouldn't even be as opposed to it, but it's always $70 for the standard edition and oh, also, there's $200+ worth of DLC and microtransactions to buy, as well. Back in the 90s, you got everything for that price.

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[–] Pietson@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

I've tried the vision pro and the quality is definitely impressive even compared to other headsets, but the quest three does colour passthrough well enough that unless you have zero interest in games and money is no object, it makes no sense to buy the vision pro.

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[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Teens acting like teens.

There are writings dating back to ancient Greece of people complaining about young people and how stupid/lazy/whatever they are compared to the previous generations.

Maybe we can drop that one already.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Teenagers are just filled with hormones and poor decision-making skills. They're big balls of attitude and it still seems to astound people when they want to be argumentative.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Trans people.

Trans people have existed forever and conservatives are trying to pretend it's a new thing.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Where I live, this still applies to lesbians and gay men. I am not joking.

And I'm in a country where an overwhelming majority of the population, both old and new, is so conservative that it's basically religious nationalism at this point. I've said the name of that country so many times that I'm getting bored of it now, but it's basically Morocco.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

The other day I learned about this chap who lived in the 19th century stealing married women https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Allent_(trans_man)

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The first patient to receive a sex reassignment surgery fought in the battle of the bulge.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did they fight against the bulge, or for it?

[–] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

"Battle of the Bulge" ironically sounds like a great name for a battle around Trans rights.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I still remember when they added the pull down notification drawer, it was all over tech review sites like it was the next big thing. Android phones had the same feature for 2 years before Apple introduced it.

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why do people act like it's righteous to suck off game companies? They won't send you a copy for defending their honor online, that's some mall ninja shit.

[–] applepie@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am sure some are bootlickers but we now know that game companies pay social media companies to atro turf ...

So half the time that idiot ain't a person, just an npc doing his job.

With a little skill they are pretty easy to spot.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  • Yellow news
  • The struggle of the intellectual minority.
  • The fundamental struggle of autonomy against tyranny and those that steal it away.
[–] jo3jo3@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Sensationalist journalism. This manifests as clickbait headlines, agenda pieces, and other such tactics.

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[–] LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Crime. Since people hear about it more often they think there is more crime, but in actually overall crime has gone down. There was more crime before 24 hour news not less. You just are hearing about crimes that in the past wouldn't have made the news.

[–] 1984 9 points 5 months ago

What? Just because you found 1 game at 70 dollars back in the 90s doesn't mean that it's a fair price for games?

Even now with tons of inflation since 1990 it's a ridiculous price and reserved only for top tier games that everyone wants to buy, like Baldurs Gate.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago
[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The first computer game I ever bought was Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord for $80 in 1982. The new version is $35 on Steam and wishlisted because I'm a cheap bastard now.

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People have less spendable money on average than 20 years ago and there are more games and more unfinished or broken games, that are sold for a higher price. Games instead should get cheaper, as people have less money to spend. Your assumption that games used to be more expensive is therefore flawed.

That said, AI generated images, aka fake images and nudes of celebrities etc, are seen as new now. But we could do that with image editing software for decades, just the speed changed. Now everyone acts like as we require new laws, but they are already in place. AI video generation might be a bit more tricky, as one used to not be able to do that without a lot of time and money, but still, it's nothing new and laws are in place. We won't be able to stop this technological advancement and we even harm people by that. If only rich corporates dictate the AI environment, we destroy possible startups, harm citizens and also give evil actors more power, because the later doesn't care about laws, while the average Joe's privacy and other rights are getting more and more restricted.

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[–] Shawdow194@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago

To be fair, there are a lot more $5 games nowadays that provide hours of good quality content.

There were plenty older games that charged full price and are shit aswell. And there was less selection..

[–] Today@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sex. Everything you're doing (unless you're using some type of new technology or device) had been done for thousands of years.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

There's an entire civilization in pre European contact Americas that only depicted anal sex in all their artwork.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires. We have a wild discrepancy in wealth distribution, but there have always been pharos and kings and tsars, along with accompanying nobles, minor royalty, etc.

And it's easy to argue that those rulers had far more power. Elon Musk can't order my head removed.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

And they controlled vast amounts of land, where thousands or millions of people lived.

[–] Kyre@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

I vividly remember purchasing Final Fantasy 3 in the early 90 for $69.95. It was the first video game I purchased with my own money and it was like a years worth of allowance.

[–] waz@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I'm a little out of the loop on this one, so this might be a dumb question. For $70 do you get the game, or just most of it? Do certain features cost more? Does it require a online subscription?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (8 children)

$70 for video games back in the 90s? What world did you come from?

I was paying $5 for video games back then.

[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It definitely was a thing if you bought them new. http://i.imgur.com/zf92o.jpg

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

...The fucking console only cost $100. If that ad is the default, that's fucking insane.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No console went for $100 new when it first came out. Those were the prices long after the economy of scale made it a profitable gamble to sell the hardware at a loss to drive game sales and make up the difference and then some.

I remember Super Nintendo games at ~$60-$70 at first release. They quickly came down in price to ~$40-$50 after a month or two.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Consoles were usually $300 new. I remember spending $600 on a 3DO.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That's the second generation of Genesis/Megadrive, so at that point they were probably selling it as a loss leader having minimised production costs.

The real money is in the games, so you make the console cheap and create more customers for the games.

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[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yep, I paid £65 for Street Fighter 2 on the Megadrive, back in the early 90s. A huge amount of money then, but worth it given how much I played it.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure, for $5 you could get some old games from the bargain table, but some people like to play them when they're new.

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Most new games were $40-50 IIRC. A few high demand would be more.

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