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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's funny (or 'funny' if you prefer) that US Republicans are monarchists instead of republicans.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Remember when they were complaining that Obama was acting like a king? It turns out they like kings after all.

Maybe they're just looking for certain.... Characteristics..... in a King.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing "The Blueprint: Obama's Plan to Subvert the Constitution and Build an Imperial Presidency" was actually more projection than it was a condemnation of actual policies.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Huh don't recall this. Was it a big deal at the time?

Also from Amazon description:

Courts: The authors have insider knowledge of how Obama will pack the Supreme Court and lower courts with activist judges who will overstep their constitutional authority.

Lol.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, every accusation is a confession. I'm sure the GOP playbook for years has been: accuse the Left of doing X; do X yourself but in the name of trying to "level the playing field".

This week on "every accusation is a confession"...

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's what they call themselves, that's it. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is also none of those things.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is also none of those things.

Not even Korea? 😮

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nope, it's actually a colony of Norway (/s)

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

iTs a rEpUbLiC nOt a dEmoCraCy.

There's a reason why they keep saying that recently, they don't want democracy. They want to backflip themselves into selecting how leaders are chosen and who gets to choose.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trump wouldn't be where he is if media like The NY Times didn't circlejerk his existence. Had the media ignored their cash cow from the start we wouldn't be facing the end of democracy.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The abject failure of corporate news in assessing our current situation of befuckededness cannot be overstated.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But Jon Stewart still continues to try, thankfully! He is the hero that we need, even if not the one we deserve right now, or whatever (line from Batman) - I doubt he can save us from ourselves, but damn I'm sure glad to see him on the air again nonetheless.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would vote for Jon Stewart in a hearbeat.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 4 months ago

He is too smart to ever run though:-D.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Too bad Biden has repeatedly said he won't use it to his advantage to stop fascism and what he's telling us would be the end of American democracy...

You can't half ass the fight against fascism.

Be a use they'll always do everything they can.

If trump is an existential threat to American democracy, we need to start fucking acting like it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unprecedented times call for unprecedented actions. This is a situation in which I would cheer for someone pulling the ladder up behind them. Use their God-King power to destroy their God-King power. Come on, King Biden.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He didn't even need this

He could have expanded the courts as soon as he took office and prevented so much harm.

He just didn't want to.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which Congress would've approved this? The one that couldn't get the federal minimum wage increased or the one that couldn't pass a border security bill?

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So I've seen lots of commentary about this ruling, but I kind of assumed that the panic was overblown. After all, the ruling said presidents were only immune for "official acts" but could still be held accountable for "unofficial acts", right? Well fuck, turns out I was wrong.

“In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the president’s motives,” [Chief Justice] Roberts writes. “Such an inquiry would risk exposing even the most obvious instances of official conduct to judicial examination on the mere allegation of improper purpose, thereby intruding on the Article II interests that immunity seeks to protest.” 

They're literally saying that there is no way to determine what is an official act and what is not. So Biden could order someone to go shoot Trump, and we couldn't even inquire into if he was acting in an official capacity or not.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, agencies have failed, justice has failed, and we expect the military (or some part of it) will also fail next.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A military coup probably won't happen. The federal government is still pretty in line with the people's interest, even if the media makes it seem otherwise.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Yeah, until project 2025 drains those positions of anything but loyalists.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Somehow “probably won’t happen” is a bit underwhelming. The amount of neo-nazis and assorted relevant flavors in the military is too damned high.

There’s also the practical matter of the Constitution preventing them from law enforcement (which - yeah, i know). I’m saying the odds that it’s us out here alone are . . . well, also, too damned high.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In 1977, nearly three years after leaving office in disgrace, President Richard Nixon gave a series of interviews to David Frost, a British journalist.

“Such an inquiry would risk exposing even the most obvious instances of official conduct to judicial examination on the mere allegation of improper purpose, thereby intruding on the Article II interests that immunity seeks to protest.” In other words, the why of a president’s actions cannot be held as evidence against him, even if they’re plainly illegitimate.

Turning to Trump’s attempt to pressure Mike Pence into delaying certification of the Electoral College, Roberts says that this too was an official act.

But more troubling than the court’s interference in the democratic process are the disturbing implications of the majority’s decision, which undermines the foundations of republican government at the same time that it purports to be a strike in defense of the constitutional order.

“The court,” Sotomayor writes, “effectively creates a law-free zone around the president, upsetting the status quo that has existed since the founding.” When he uses his official powers in any way, she continues, “he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution.

In their relentless drive to protect a Republican president and secure his power for a future administration, the conservative majority has issued a fundamentally anti-republican opinion.


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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden should just shit can the tRump appointed judges. Tell them they have two choices; You resign, or you die.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure their timing of releasing this ruling and immediate adjournment was no coincidence. I hope the conservative justices shit bricks the next time they're all in the same room.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Alternative caption to the article's photo:
Trump blissfully sniffs his own explosive fart while the crowd screams and tries to make a panicked escape