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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 161 points 4 months ago

I think you mean "Trump's VP pick is also a naked authoritarian."

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 147 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I started reading up on him and apparently he said this:

I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful), or that he’s America’s Hitler.

That fact that he thinks Trump could be Hitler and is still prepared to get behind him for his own gain tells me all I need to know about the principles of the man.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 4 months ago (5 children)

My guess is that he's hoping that Trump will kick the bucket while in office and get a free pass without needing to campaign.

Remember your vote matters!

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is exactly what he's counting on. He's a power hungry snake. 🐍🐍

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[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Obligatory that's also what Hitler bloody did. I do not want to see either of these men in power.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised to know he said it like "America's Hitler" wasn't the bad thing it would be.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

You're confused because you're reading "Trump could be Hitler" like its a bad thing and not JD Vance's wet dream.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 112 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He's a kiss ass. JD Vance has used every public speaking opportunity to suck Trump's dick very publicly.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 99 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A few years ago, he was shit talking Trump every chance he got.

Turns out, "never Trump" Republicans don't have a political future.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Super excited to see how "Trump is America's Hitler" does with those swing voters.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

They're not paying attention to it now; I doubt they'll understand when their neighbors are being rounded up.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Well, given how much the country has been declining, this is high praise.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Disturbingly well, given the direction this country is headed.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Interesting. It's possible that he rapes children just like trump does.

Even if he doesn't rape children like trump does, he still completely supports a child rapist.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Naked public dick-sucking? I'm starting to think these folks don't care about family values

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 108 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

He's an Ivy League educated social climber who hobnobbed with Peter Theil and lawmakers before he got famous writing a book where he cosplayed as a poor person so he could tell rich people exactly what they want to hear about poor people

From a quick glance at my résumé, you might think me an older, female version of Vance. I was born in Appalachia in the 1960s and grew up in the small city of Newark, Ohio. When I was 9, my parents divorced. My mom became a single mother of four, with only a high school education and little work experience. Life was tough; the five of us lived on $6,000 a year.

Like Vance, I attended Ohio State University on scholarship, working nights and weekends. I graduated at the top of my class and, again like Vance, attended Yale Law School on a financial-need scholarship. Today, I represent people who’ve been fired illegally from their jobs. And now that I’m running for Congress in Northeast Ohio, I speak often with folks who are trying hard but not making much money.

A self-described conservative, Vance largely concludes that his family and peers are trapped in poverty due to their own poor choices and negative attitudes. But I take great exception when he makes statements such as: “We spend our way into the poorhouse. We buy giant TVs and iPads. Our children wear nice clothes thanks to high-interest credit cards and payday loans. We purchase homes we don’t need, refinance them for more spending money, and declare bankruptcy. . . . Thrift is inimical to our being.”

Who is this “we” of whom he speaks? Vance’s statements don’t describe the family in which I grew up, and they don’t describe the families I meet who are struggling to make it in America today. I know that my family lived on $6,000 per year because as children, we sat down with pen and paper to help find a way for us to live on that amount. My mom couldn’t even qualify for a credit card, much less live on credit. She bought our clothes at discount stores.

Thrift was not inimical to our being; it was the very essence of our being.

With lines like “We choose not to work when we should be looking for jobs,” Vance’s sweeping stereotypes are shark bait for conservative policymakers. They feed into the mythology that the undeserving poor make bad choices and are to blame for their own poverty, so taxpayer money should not be wasted on programs to help lift people out of poverty. Now these inaccurate and dangerous generalizations have been made required college reading.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am fucking foaming at the mouth with this shit. Every study, every test, and nearly every fucking holy book shows and says, help the poor. It is worth your while. Their very own messiah was built off of helping the poor and going against norms. Its so incredibly asinine.

[–] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Their very own messiah was built off of helping the poor

Whoa! I don't think you're knowledgeable enough about Supply Side Jesus to make such scurrilous accusations. /s

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

This needs to be FRONT AND CENTER at the VP debate. Trump did this shit with his bullshit fake assistant crap, and this guy did it through this bullshit.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

The fact that this guy hates thrift stores tells you all you need to know about him

I mean, in addition to worshipping Hitler

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 68 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Harris is going to eat him alive in the VP debate.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago

I like this new format

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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

TLDR: He is pro-January 6th insurrection, pro-Project 2025, wants to overthrow the current government, basically as Trumptard as they get.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Pro-P2025 is an understatement. My man practically wrote the damned thing. People write him off as a simple grifter and climber, but this man's hate is pure.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

He's the guy who, when asked about abortion ban exceptions for rape and increase, said "Two wrongs don't make a right."

[–] Beryl@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago (3 children)

From the NYT : "Shortly after J.D. Vance’s selection was announced, his hometown, Middletown, Ohio, was pounded by a strong storm with hail the size of golf balls that cleared parks and splash pads as people fled for cover. "

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

God:

WTF people. How many signs do you fucking need.

pegs little Jimmy betwixt the eyes with a golf ball sized peice of hail

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

God could end this any time she wants in a thousand different ways.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Looks at climate change.

I think she already chose the method.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gestures wildly at everything

I think she chose every method at once

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[–] kevindqc@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is he responsible for the shooting? He once told a friend that Trump was America's Hitler

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago

Are you implying he meant that negatively?

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I can’t shake this feeling that we are just totally fucked.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Well, I, for one, appreciate that he's wearing clothes every time I've seen his picture.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I can't believe we have a fucking candidate whose name's "JD." It's like he's the kid brother on some 90s sitcom. Blergh.

Though in 30 years we'll have all the Braydens and Jaydens and Haydens getting elected.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Fuck Trump, Fuck Vance. Traitors.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

An Ivy League Man who become Very Wealthy thanks to Hollywood and Entertainment is EXACTLY the type of Working Class individual who will help DRAIN THE SWAMP! KEEP HOLLYWOOD OUT OF DC!

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

At least Trump isn't going through the facade of 'draining the swamp' again. He's letting the swamp rats in through the front door.

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's a quirky pretentious thing that they take pride in. It's not Ohio State University. It's THE Ohio State University

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