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[–] coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 108 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"Moon landing was fake!!!" "You still believe the moon is real?"

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This was highly effective when I used it in real life.

The conspiracy theorist got real mad demanding I name sources, I kept telling him to find it on the internet with fake search terms.

[–] coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

I would have screamed "do your own research!" before just leaving.

[–] match@pawb.social 16 points 5 days ago

congress is full of marxist-leninist-pelosi-ists who intentionally cause inflation to distract us from finding obama's birth certificate! google "MLP inflation" if yu don't believe me!

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I once got on the topic of the moon lending with a creationist co-worker. He said he wasn't sure, but that if it happened we should be able to see it from satellite pictures. So I said "yeah you can", pulled it up, and zoomed in on a landing site. You couldn't see footprints or anything, but you could see the shadow of the flag next to clearly man-made debris

I showed him exactly what he agreed would be proof in a difficult to fake form, and it just temporarily nudged the needle for him

Now, I fight conspiracies with the opposite conspiracies.

Earth is a 4D hypersphere, the earth isn't hollow, Agatha is just another part of the surface reached by holes

The elites are hiding all the best vaccines, like the ones that cure cancer

[–] coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I recently watched "Brief history of the Wrong Earths" by Hardcore Sci-Fi, not many of these are well known so you could have so much more ammunition for fooling around like that with people.

"flat earth? Nah, it's expanding bro! Oh wait actually it's 9 hollow earths one in another!"

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 93 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My best friend has an unnatural talent for this sort of thing and really enjoys toying with conspiracy theory nuts.

When folks start talking about crazy shit, it makes me very anxious and I tend to shut down. Not my buddy. He eggs them on, encourages it, and gets them to say things or agree with things that are even more outlandish than where they conversation started. Things will start at "China invented covid to kill off old people" and somehow end up at "Hillary Clinton paid to have her chromosomes added to the covid vaccines so that DNA evidence can no longer be used against her in the courts".

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 42 points 5 days ago

I love this method and employ it at bars. It's like gonzo conversationalism.

[–] Mike1576218@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't that somewhat how Q-anon started?

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I think that basically is yeah. Then, when they saw that it had gathered a following, admins on a #chan who were pro-Trump and think that they're super smart because they use Haskell took over to pump up fringe support.

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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 160 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (21 children)

I once heard of a pediatrician who successfully convinced a concerned mother that anti-vax ideology was likely a psyop by the Russians to weaken the health of the American populace starting with our children. Doesn't hurt that it's probably true.

EDIT: My personal conspiracy theory is that the Chinese government did engineer (or at least selectively cultivate) COVID, but not to kill Americans. In the early days of the pandemic there was some speculation that it affected some blood types more than others, particularly type A. While no link to blood type specifically was found, type A is a more common genetic trait as you move out of Asia and towards the middle east. China has been heavily persecuting the Uyghurs (Chinese Muslims), and those who have managed to get out of the camps have reported medical experimentation and being injected with unknown substances. In addition, the virus would also kill a significant number of the older population, which is important because of the population crunch they're about to experience due to one-child policies resulting in a high amount of female-specific infanticide. They're about to have a bunch of old people and a massive shortage of able bodied young people to care for them. Even if they didn't directly "engineer" the virus in a gene-sequencing manner, they have a lot off motive to just generally cultivate and spread (you can't really "breed" a virus) an infectious disease targeting people of middle eastern descent and elders.

Thank you for coming to my tinfoil-hat Ted Talk.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The reason I absolutely believe this to be true? Because I’ve used this on my little brothers since we were kids. I’m 45.

It’s called “reverse psychology.”

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[–] rbits@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can confirm this is true because the same was true for my mum. She was against the COVID vaccine, but then she started believing that the theories were started by the Chinese government to target people who don't listen to the authorities.

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[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How are China's stringent lockdowns explained in this conspiracy theory? Also, where do I sign up as a member?

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Well you can't not do that, especially not if you're already known for doing that kind of thing anyway for other things.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A repressive regime that becomes less repressive during a global pandemic is highly suspicious. Gotta keep up appearances.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

Half-done virus got out per accident?

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 59 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I once tried to get a conspiracy theory going that Flat Earth was a fake conspiracy started by the government to cover up the real conspiracy - that the moon is flat. That's why we only ever see one side of it and why we were able to land on it. It didn't take lol.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I just need people to know that they didn't fake the moon landing, that really happened. They faked the moon. It didn't exist prior to the 1960s when it was created by the US government in order to move the goalposts in the space race.

The insider knowledge that there would soon be a moon to land on gave NASA the head start they needed on the Apollo program to finally beat the Soviets, who were thoroughly blindsided by the sudden appearance of the moon.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is bullshit. What we see as the moon is actually the earth, after the reptillians ruined it. What we live on is actually a domed space station orbiting the moon-earth.

We didnt go to the moon, we went back to the moon.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

why we were able to land on it.

This is why you failed. Everyone knows the moon landing was fake and directed by Kubrick.

[–] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but you know how Kubrick was. He made them film on location.

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[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 50 points 5 days ago

Dank memes can't melt steel beams.

7/11 was a part time job.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I fondly remember reading a comment in /r/conspiracy on a post claiming a geologic seismic weapon brought down the towers.

It just tore into the claims, citing all the reasons this was preposterous bordering on batshit crazy.

And then it said "and your theory doesn't address the thermite residue" going on to reiterate their wild theory.

Was very much a "don't name your gods" moment that summed up the sub - a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.

As long as they only focused on generic memes of "do your own research" and "you aren't being told the truth" they were all on the same page. But as soon as they started naming their own truths, it was every theorist for themselves.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago

I have never heard the term "don't name your gods" but it's my new favorite phrase of possibly the whole fucking year. Thank you.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.

This has been my take.

They're not there for the truth. They're there for validation.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's ego powered with insecurity jetfuel, still can't melt steel beams tho.^joke^

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29081831/

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 49 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Jet fuel indeed doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. Forging temperature, OTOH, no issue.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 62 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You don't understand, steel is either solid or melted. No in-between. No idea what you mean by forging temperature, swords for example are forged by pouring liquid steel to a form, it's in so many movies!

/s obviously.

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I know the /s but I also want to introduce you to amorphous solids! (Because I like them so now you get to read this lol) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_solid

Which is essentially a "solid" structure without a proper crystalline structure. This will cause it to move as a liquid at incredibly slow speeds. Such a glass for instance. Extremely old historical glass can be seen to be thicker at the bottom than the top. Not because it was built this way, but because over hundreds of years it has "poured" down [1].

*This is a simplified explanation and therefore may not be acutely accurate for sake of simplicity

TL;DR Some solid stuff is really just super slow liquids. I.E. Glass

[1]: See link in comment reply. Glass is an amorphous solid but sources say that glass pane construction is the cause of thicker bottoms rather than it's movement over time.

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[–] Paradachshund 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When I started reading these comments I didn't expect them to be full of actual, unironic conspiracy theories. 🤔

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dinosaurs are a lie created by the wizards to hide the existence of dragons.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The wizards hunted dragons to extinction because their wings made good spell components and they want to dodge responsibility for it.

Its ugly, but it's true.

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[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Jet fuel doesn't need extra tanks of mind control agent, they're already using leaded fuel

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

lead is in avgas for prop planes, not jet fuel.

*I guess turboprops also use jet fuel so I should have said small GA planes but you get the point.

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I like to just be the crazier one. Flat earth? You still believe in an earth, you silly goose egg.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Lies!

Everybody knows that the terrorists on the planes aimed them at the floor containing the Illuminati outpost and it was the fire from the cooling liquid for the supercomputers used to mind control everybody in New York that melted the support steel structure.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Every conspiracy theory should have some way to bet on it.

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they add fentanyl to your previous vaccines!

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