An executive in an American military contractor that is providing data analytics to the IDF joking about war crimes. This attack could not have been planned and executed so successfully without Palantir's services and they are gleefully celebrating their involvement without explicitly saying so.

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[–] theother2020@hexbear.net 11 points 13 hours ago

I saw the CEO’s appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher which aired Friday. It’s actually worth watching because he says stuff out-loud and he’s a true believer. His ideology such as it is is a lot like Sam Harris but he’s more mask off and more animated and enthusiastic.

He says the future of modern warfare will be peer to peer and drone to drone. “You’re going to be using software to control small instruments and there’s going to be hundreds of thousands of them.” He mentions fighting China and Russia specifically.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

it's the fucking CIA again!!! Palantir equals CIA

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 40 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

You know I realize in the grand scheme of things this is kind of a weird/sad thing to fixate on but I can't get it out of my head that in like 20-30 years hollywood is gonna do some "based on a true story" film about this operation that plays out like an Ocean's style heist movie or something.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago

If Burgerland continues to exist in a recognizable form in 20+ years, yeah, I think it'll be a "what if these bloodthirsty monsters are actually quirky and quippy?" treatment.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 6 points 15 hours ago

could even be sooner, black hawk down came out about 8 years after the battle it was based on

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Shitholewood made that Israeli propaganda movie about follow up to 1972 Munich olympics event in 2005 (I think?) So 100% there will be some form of media over this in future.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 16 hours ago

The Steven Spielberg one?

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 37 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Tolkien doin cartwheels in his grave

[–] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

did these ghoul companies like Palantir and Anduril have to license the name from the Tolkien estate? if they did I wonder how cheap it was to tarnish all his works with this reprehensible bullshit, and if it was a one-time fee or an ongoing annual payment. if they didn't haha IP law for thee but not for me

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 16 points 22 hours ago

did these ghoul companies like Palantir and Anduril have to license the name from the Tolkien estate?

doubt

[–] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

they love to brag about it

Claiming that his products “changed the course of history by stopping terror attacks,” Mr. Karp said that Palantir had also “protected our men and women on the battlefield” and “taken the lives of our enemies, and I don’t think that’s something to be ashamed of.”

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago (8 children)

A few paragraphs later he says he loves doing terrorism

“I actually am a progressive,” he said. “I want less war. You only stop war by having the best technology and by scaring the bejabers — I’m trying to be nice here — out of our adversaries. If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us. They will attack us everywhere.”

[–] refracting@hexbear.net 38 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine somebody saying the same things but for queer people. The outrage from all sides would be immense

They will attack us everywhere.

A really easy way to not be attacked everywhere is to stop being everywhere. Stop invading countries, stop occupying them for decades, stop killing their citizens

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago

Pretty much nobody on earth is afraid of me, yet I almost never get attacked. Curious.

[–] NewDark@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

You know... Scare them. I wonder if there's another verb we could use for heavily scaring another person. Terrorize maybe?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 34 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us

Least terrorist methods and goals.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This fucking ghoul right here is IMO the perfect example of the west being run by the failsons and faildaughters of empire.

The old school evil fuckers like Kissenger never believed ridiculous shit like this. They knew the entire point of endless overseas conflicts is to create more conflicts and thus more profit.

This goober on the other hand seems to genuinely believe the war on terror propaganda. Bro actually thinks the empire exists out of charity for the rest of the world, and not just endless death in the pursuit of always falling profits.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

They're the otaku of the military-industrial complex. They have vanishingly few experiences with whatever came before them and are just going through the motions without prior contextual understanding. They don't know where the ideology came from so they just gobble up the pablum without knowing what the pablum came from or whether they're actually supposed to believe it.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It literally sounds like what the villain of a story based in the British empire (or any evil empire for that matter) would say.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 20 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

“I actually am a progressive,”

i-am-adolf-hitler

"If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us. They will attack us everywhere.”

Deranged and fascistic thought process

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 23 points 23 hours ago

hamas-red-triangle

[–] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Princess Leia Organa : Governor Tarkin! I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. I recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board.

Grand Moff Tarkin : Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.

Princess Leia Organa : I'm surprised that you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.

Grand Moff Tarkin : Princess Leia, before your execution, I would like you to be my guest at a ceremony that'll make this battle station operational. No star system will dare oppose the Emperor now.

Princess Leia Organa : The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

Grand Moff Tarkin : Not after we demonstrate the power of this station. In a way, you have determined the choice of the planet that'll be destroyed first. Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the Rebel base, I have chosen to test this station's destructive power on your home planet of Alderaan.

Princess Leia Organa : No! Alderaan is peaceful! We have no weapons, you can't possibly...

Grand Moff Tarkin : [impatiently] You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: Where is the rebel base?

Princess Leia Organa : ...Dantooine. They're on Dantooine.

Grand Moff Tarkin : There. You see, Lord Vader, she can be reasonable. Continue with the operation; you may fire when ready.

Princess Leia Organa : WHAT?

Grand Moff Tarkin : You're far too trusting. Dantooine is too remote to make an effective demonstration - but don't worry; we will deal with your rebel friends soon enough.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 6 points 22 hours ago

me when i'm on the right side of history

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago

Karp is always bragging about his refusal to work with "enemies of the West", as if China is begging to give up their data to a CIA asset.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

taken the lives of our enemies

weird to have beef with a random 9 year old girl halfway across the world, but ok

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Army worthy of Mordor

[–] rentasonder@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The U$ were the orcs all along

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago

amerikkka astronaut-2 astronaut-1

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

how did the explosives get in to the specific devices owned by the hezbollah? Sent in for maintenance? Intercepted during shipping? I'm trying to understand all the players and prep time that would need to be involved for an attack like this to work

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 32 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think they targeted Hezbollah specifically, it's just that pagers are niche enough that they could rely on probability to get some Hezbollah members. Turns out plenty of civilians like doctors and emergency workers use pagers too, so to the IOF it does double duty as terrorism.

I can only speculate but probably intercepted during shipping, or if the whole Hungarian shell company thing is true maybe planted there.

[–] rentasonder@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 23 hours ago

Totally guessing here, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hezbollah has some kind of regular contract for bulk ordering, in some manner.

They probably run through plenty of pagers, and need regular replacements.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

It was over 3000 pagers that exploded. This article tries to explain it.

The evidence so far suggests that Hezbollah acquired the pagers around February when the group’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, ordered members to stop using cellphones because they could be easily intercepted and monitored by Israeli intelligence.

In this case, Magnier said, the pagers procured by Hezbollah were with a third party and they sat at a port for three months, awaiting clearances, before they were finally moved to the Lebanese group.

Hezbollah suspects that it was during those three months that Israel managed to plant explosives in the devices, the military analyst said.

A Lebanese security source and another source told the Reuters news agency that the Mossad, Israel’s spy agency, planted explosives in 5,000 pagers that Hezbollah had ordered months before the explosions. The sources said a code was simultaneously sent to 3,000 of the pagers, triggering the explosions.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/how-did-hezbollah-get-the-pagers-that-exploded-in-lebanon

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 6 points 22 hours ago

Thanks for the informative linky

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

The fucking arrogance...really disgusting

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 30 points 1 day ago

I guess if you're gonna name your company after the bad guy's tools, you might as well lean into the supervillain thing.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

gui-better

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago

Good god that guy and those replies. My thoughts are truly: illegal-to-say