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Today several users reported that a handful of significant Cartoon Network shows—including Ben 10, Steven Universe, Regular Show, the 2016 Powerpuff Girls revival, Amazing World of Gumball, We Bare Bears, and Chowder—were suddenly no longer streaming on Max with the turn of the month, with no prior announcement of their impending removal.

Just removing Steven Universe alone seems insane to me. I'm not into it, but it has a massive fan base.

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[–] Raglesnarf@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

you know where shows and movies never get deleted from? my home server 🏴‍☠️

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But your home server's drive can malfunction and then you're stuck. Unless you make regular backups I guess.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

RAID1 is cheap. It's not a fool proof solution but has saved my Plex library a couple times over the years.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Hell, raid 5 isn't that expensive. 4 bay enclosure with some drives and your set.

You can even run most of your services on them if you choose wisely. I run all of my arr apps on my NAS along with the torrent client. I use a little SFF PC as my Plex server for the extra power to transcode.

[–] sidekickplayah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

🏴‍☠️, come get your 🏴‍☠️!!!

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

And these clowns wonder why people pirate shit. There’s a subscription for everything now and they still limit what content you can watch.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago

They’re also all freeeeeee!

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Just recently I finally convinced my wife to watch Venture Bros. I watched it on Max a couple years ago and enjoyed it, but I hadn't gotten the chance to watch the movie. So I was hoping we could watch the series together and finish off with the movie.

The movie is on Max, but the show is not anymore. The first 3 seasons are on Netflix. Seasons 4-7... They don't seem to be available anywhere. Well, I think Adult Swim's website might have it but their website sucks for binging shows even on a desktop, and either worse or literally not possible to use on other devices. I could "buy" them digitally on Amazon. Instead I just bought the DVD collection and added it to my Jellyfin server.

It used to be that a show had to be really special for me to shell out money and dedicate digital and physical storage space for me to buy a physical copy. But more and more I find myself buying the DVD's and Blu-Rays even for shows like Venture Bros that I like, but may not love. Streaming just keeps getting worse.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Yesssss… “bought” a “dvd”….

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

It does. Ownership really does beat everything, just like cash will always be king

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

That show is fantastic! I wish they fleshed out the ending a bit more instead of a movie. If they had one more season to give it a proper ending would be chef's kiss. Still one of the best Western animations ever made.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 53 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

From my understanding, Max has to pay every time the show is viewed. So there's a calculation they have, how many subscribers will they lose by removing it?

For reference, they removed Westworld.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They removed Westworld? So they're removing their own IP that they own?

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The last season of Westworld was so interesting and then it was canceled. (︶︿︶)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago

It's too bad they couldn't pay a certain amount in one lump sum to produce a limited number of, say, small physical discs that play video for people to buy more often.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

But... wouldn't that "take up" the views of other shows?

In other words, the consumer has X amount of time for HBO Max, so they'd either be paying for more views on another show or a potential lost subscriber who can't find anything to watch, right?

And, with all due respect, there's no way cartoons are more expensive-per-view than other shows.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ideally they would subscribe and then watch a different service. Or maybe a different cartoon is cheaper per view. Or maybe it's a retroactive contract negotiation tactic. Basically negotiate or you won't get any residuals.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I must be old. Getting high and watching Power Puff Girls was a lot of fun when it was new. But everyone is talking about Steven Universe, and I have no idea what that is.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You could try watching it...

For what it's worth, I like it, and I'm kinda old.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, I'm old. No idea what that would even look like.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to groan loudly as I get up from my chair.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The MC cries at genocidal maniacs so they stop and say sorry.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I watched the whole thing because of my ex. This is an apt description. Just when you think the show will do something cool they just go "I'm sorry" and hug it out.

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 19 hours ago

If they have old shows you like they can't sell you new shows.

It's all artificial scarcity, just ask the millions of people pirating content.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 13 points 18 hours ago

Ahoy, me mateys!

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Reminds me of WhatCulture's video yesterday on 10 great shows that you cannot stream anywhere:

https://youtu.be/BHb511kO6VA

There are several HBO Max cartoons on there.

Time to sail the seas to preserve artwork.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You are the first recommendation for What Culture in the wild. I find their stuff a bit WhatMojo clickbait for my liking.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Slightly less click baity than WatchMojo. I enjoy their presenters and I get a rundown of lesser known movies. I have watched a few WatchMojo videos and the presenters seem a bit stale.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago

Max is notoriously capricious. If I remember correctly, they have a terrible reputation with animation on their platform.

In a sense I'm surprised these cartoons remained on there as long as they did.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I’m fairly certain that Max despises their fan base.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty much every mega corp, except Costco, is a mega douche.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago

Welcome to Costco, I love you! If you raise the price of the fucking hotdog I will kill you! Figure it out.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When buying isn't owning...

[–] Dainterhawk999@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Again the same story... Digitization has removed the so called actual ownership

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It’s not a cartoon but I still don’t understand why I can’t watch episodes of Tales From the Crypt on Max. It was an HBO show.

[–] latesleeper@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The World According to Jeff Goldblum was a show made by and for Disney+. They deleted it for tax purposes. There is no legal way to watch the show now. Completely gone.

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. I had to look into this. Yeah. Apparently these companies that own streaming services can just remove their own content they hold the rights to if they're having a "line not go up as much as we'd like it to" year, and receive tax credits back from the Federal government. A multi trillion dollar company, in order to pay less taxes AND siphon off taxpayer dollars to add to their coffers, is allowed to choose to make their service less valuable. What a load of fucking horseshit.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Go Capitalism!

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

Same with The Mysterious Benedict Society. I did find a site that would sell it to me on a disc, but once I received it, it became clear to me they didn't actually have a license to do so and just sold me a bootleg. Oh well. I dunno why Disney just didn't want my money in the first place.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What? Nooooooooo! SU is one of my comfort shows.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

"io9 has reached out to Max for comment and clarification on the removal, and whether or not the departures were intentional updates to Max’s catalogue or if, like the recent situation with Over the Garden Wall on Hulu, an oversight that will be corrected."

Artwork doesn't re-Photoshop itself accidentally. This was all intentional.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

As a long-time fan of CN and AS, this always happens. Their stuff always gets pushed/ split between platforms like crazy. It's a lot more common now, but they've always had that problem. I love their content, but damn does it make me want to sail the seas.

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