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[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Because the material conditions of late stage capitalism that lead to fascism are inevitable.

[–] scoredseqrica@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Because it is against the Democrats material interests to hold and wield power.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

😲 SPICY 🥵 NICE

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't forget that the voters are all americans.

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

the media reporting it are all scared of trump and his cronies

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Have you seen some of the wishy-washy mouth breathers in the "undecided" focus groups? I'm embarrassed to admit we're the same species. The Trump cultists might be insane, brain-poisoned, sociopathic, fundamentalist idiots but at least they have the capacity to make a bad decision. The independents can't seem to make any decision. It if they do, it's based on some random nonsense or impulse. I dunno if they've got learning disorders or are just sad windsocks, but the fact that they are the ones who get to decide if America dies next month is terrifying.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I don't think you have any idea who you're describing. Of course it's possible to find a couple dozen people who legitimately have no idea who to vote for, but you know it's a lot easier to find millions of people who are going to stay home. As always, the real challenge is getting people to go vote.

But you think this ultra-minority, that is barely in existence, is going to decide an election. By your reasoning, it doesn't matter what anyone else does. Everyone else in the United States is powerless between now and election day. That's your position, right? ... But I think it's just a cop out. You just want someone to blame if your candidate loses, and you certainly don't want to blame yourself or your candidate.

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[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Because the people who own everything want him to win. It's that simple.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're posting this right now because of recent poll data, It's because Republican companies are creating their own polls just so that they can claim the race is closer than it is.

Of course we don't know who's going to win. The election hasn't happened yet. But any speculation about changes in the last few days should be taken with a grain of salt, because this is a playbook that was trotted out two years ago and it's back again.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (10 children)

why is this race so close?

Two words: Electoral College.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Also because big business owns all the media and everyone can lie without consequences. Democracy can't survive in these conditions.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The electoral college takes it from a 45-55 to a 50-50. But what on God's green earth gets him that 45% of the votes?

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 day ago

People who only loosely follow politics but liked the Obama economy that trump inherited and only watch Fox News. "He can't possibly be worse than a demoncrat, he's the same party as Reagan! It's really sad how the media slanders him"

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Republicans don’t want the country to be educated.

People with college degrees are overwhelmingly voting Harris. Republicans know that if we make the country smarter they’re screwed

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

What is with this elitist attitude about college? I've met plenty of idiots with degrees and many educated people without. I hate that we essentially say people are stupid if they didn't go to college or university

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most people are poorer today in the day-to-day than they were 4 years ago.

That's why. It's that simple.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That, and they forgot that they were poorer 4 years ago than they were 8 years ago.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

American voters do seem to have very short memories.

Even faced with actual data that indicates that the economy has consistently performed better under Democrats over the past 75 years, they still pretend that the party of the oligarchs is somehow going to solve the problems of the working class.

Donald Trump is very open about his own anti-labor policies as an employer, yet the very people who hate being screwed over by their bosses worship him.

I don't understand how anyone can function with this level of cognitive dissonance.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For the same reason I got temp banned from this community. People only need to be slightly against the circlejerk to be pushed away from a community, and this creates a "well, might as well let everything burn" counter-resentment. I can't vote in the US, but part of that reason is having prioritized society and consequences over ego and money. if I could I would vote against Trump, but it seems you guys are stuck doing it, and you reap what you sow. Stop being surprised pikachu-faced.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure it's the economy. Despite the fact that the US economy has been reasonably well managed, by international standards, people are hurting -- which is the perfect recipe for changing the governing party. Telling people that things aren't as bad as they think they are makes you sound out of touch.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In addition to all the things said elsewhere in this thread, younger demographics are less likely to engage with polling, which is likely effecting the outcome of the polls. The emails/texts/phone calls/etc just get ignored, so that leaves the older generations as the only ones who actually answer.

I know the polls try to take that into account, but it's never going to be possible to do so perfectly.

So tldr: fuck the polls go vote, and make sure your friends/family votes

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also worth noting that younger people are less likely to vote

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[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because one side wants to own the libs and that's all they want to do. While one side is just as bad, they want to own the population to get away with crimes and the other side is never taken seriously as it's full of gas huffing paint-chip addicts.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 96 points 2 days ago (15 children)

it's close because racism, jeebus, and guns. it seems like it should be more than that, but it isn't. broke uneducated GOP voters literally don't care about anything except for some combination of the above 3 things, because that's what the 1% propaganda machine told them to do

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[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Every time some ridiculous shit like this happens, I remember when Howard Dean yelled a little too loud and that invalidated his entire political career.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's entirely the EC.

Biden won by ten million votes, and it was still a clencher because some idjit in kansas thinks the candidates sucking Pennsylvania's fracking drill all election keeps their interests represented.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

We need to stop letting land vote.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Because Trump is energizing his base with lies and propaganda designed to get them angry and motivated, while Kamala has squandered the enthusiasm her base had for her by pursuing disaffected center-right never-Trumpers. It's basically the same strategy Hillary Clinton ran in 2016 and it's terrifying to watch the Democrats gamble on it yet again.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

its because their corporate owners don't want to have to implement left wing economic policies for the good of the nation. unfortunately we'll continue to have fascist bogey men until people start holding dems accountable.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's because the media, who teach most people how to think, is mostly owned by corporations who benefit from pro-corpo status quo policies.

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[–] Happywop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The electoral collage an years of disinformation and latent bigotry plus corporate greed screwing us all over...did I miss anything?

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[–] quink@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

this race...

this race?

The past three Republican presidents saw a job growth of 1 million, the past three Democratic presidents 51 million. Now sure, the president doesn't define every aspect of the economy, but my god that big a discrepancy is not accidental. As someone not from America, I don't understand why this race is so close, but why any race involving the Republicans, even outside of Trump, would be. I'll consider Romney an exception though, but he doesn't seem representative of the Republican Party before or after him.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Most conservatives believe state education isn't anything more than brainwashing against conservative ideas.

They're 100% correct. Education tends to make one confront reality and live in the real world, a very un-conservative concept.

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