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[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 86 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given how reactionaries behave here, how they lie about the poor, lie about queer people, lie about their international enemies as easily as breathing, why would anyone believe their claims about what happened to them in a communist country?

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

because they want to

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 73 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Vietnamese liberals are more annoying than Chinese liberals. I remember someone from Vietnam telling me about Fullbright University and how they showed students there a video on American soldiers during the Vietnam war and the liberals were actually in tears because they “had no idea how hard it was for American soldiers.”

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 82 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The more I learn about the Vietnam War, the less and less sympathy I have for its veterans. I'm at the point of "They weren't actually spat on, but they should have been. Probably flayed."

Unless you deserted, mutinied, or defected, you're on par with the Wehrmacht at best and more likely to have been the SS at worst.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It was a genocidal war in my view.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

meanwhile they slipped in "oh by the way you don't need to see a rifle when you're tallying up your score!" which is just stepping diagonally into regular old genocide

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It really was and I'm also thinking it's why so many Vietnam vets had PTSD. The nazis had the same problem when they were carrying out massacres before they built industrial murder camps.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have plenty of sympathy for Vietnam War veterans.

spoilerThe ones who fought against the imperialist pigs, that is. uncle-ho-2

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

How the IOF is conducting itself in Gaza is reasonable approximation for how the US military conducted itself in Vietnam.

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I extend this to all USAmerican soldiers, past and present

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

Showing footage of the eastern front to the class to talk about how hard it must have been for the nazis to do all that walking

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 72 points 2 weeks ago

I would simply learn that communism was good after a very short time in the camp so I got released faster, but I guess I'm built different.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And what was your great uncle's occupation before being put into that camp, hmm? I have the feeling he wasn't a plumber.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My great uncle had the egg monopoly in Vietnam

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago

NOT THE EGG MONOPOLY! I WAS WORRIED THAT'S WHAT IT'D BE!

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 65 points 2 weeks ago

And their uncle deserved it, it clearly didn't work.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sorry your great uncle sucked

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

A few years ago, there was a video that went viral of a Cuban gusano (in a MAGA hat no less) who pulled up a picture on her phone of her dear grandpa who the evil communists murdered. He was just a respected police officer, according to her.

Turns out, because she showed the picture of him, people were able to identify who this “dear grandpa” was. He was actually known to history. He was one of Batista’s henchmen who tortured and murdered quite a few people. As many at the time pointed out, that guy absolutely got what he deserved and executing him was cool and good.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminds me of that lady who talked at the DNC about her and her family "fleeing communism", but her father was part of the Nicaraguan death squads or something?

[–] BrownMinusBlue@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

Pls, pls can a comrade get s source?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oh fuck I remember that lol...and he wasn't any average henchman, either. He was like Batista's number one, go-to torture guy. I wanna say it was either Colonel Fermin Cowley Gallegos or Colonel Jesús Sosa Blanco.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 60 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like it needed to be 20 years

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago

That's a lot of words to say that your great uncle owned slaves.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Clearly not for long enough

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 46 points 2 weeks ago

Your great uncle deserved it, loser.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like they did a bad job of re-education.

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago
[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe it's because my family are all absolute pieces of shit human beings who would lie about everything, but I really don't get why these people take "my grandfather told me" as proof it must be true. Maybe your grandfather is a lying sack of shit who is mad the communists took away his slaves?

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe your grandfather is a lying sack of shit who is mad the communists took away his slaves?

And in one sentence, you just described every Cuban boomer expat I've ever known.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

So she was told communism was bad by bad people who supported slavery?