There was a, idk, art projkect? Something? Years back called jumpsuit that appropriately enough would make you a fitted bespoke "everything is grey and sad and we all wear the same clothes because communism" and apparently they were wonderful because bespoke clothes actually fit and liberating because you didn't have to worry about fashion or beauty standard or anything because you just put on your jumpsuit and it did everything you needed a garment to do.
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Wow that sounds wonderful
Imagining how each person would start to have individual wear patterns on the coveralls, little accessories they wear, and other things like that sounds so great lol.
Striking up a conversation about the interesting placement of your pockets and what hobbies they're for
I'm working my way towards that slowly. I'm buying a few pieces of thicker, well-made clothing and doing all the repairs with the same red thread so that eventually I'll have an internally consistent set. It started when I poorly reattached the strap of a canvas bag with red thread in college and loved the look of it. I have really intense color fixations so it's soothing for me.
There's a advertainment YouTube channel for a denim brand that posts "reviews" of worn out garments that their customers send back in (for a discount on a new one), and there's always kinda neat stuff that wears into people's clothes - like a musician who has more wear on the left shoulder and collar of a jacket from an instrument strap
... bespoke clothes actually fit and liberating because you didn’t have to worry about fashion or beauty standard or anything because you just put on your jumpsuit and it did everything you needed a garment to do.
i buy all my clothes in bulk and get them fitted in mass in an attempt to make something like this true for myself and you're right, it takes all those worries away automatically and you're free to focus on yourself.
the only downside to doing it this way is that your aesthetic becomes dated and both shallow and young people will ostracize you for it. since they're a overwhelming majority of the people i encounter when i leave the house, it's taught me reduce the bulk purchases so that i can update the look more often.
young people will ostracize you for it
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that's how i feel when my gen-alpha grand nieces & nephews pick on me and i CAN'T WAIT for them to start picking on their millennial parents like i did to mine at their age. lol
I didn't even realize young people had money for clothes. Like there is one specific fashionable guy i see when i'm out shopping and he's more or less the only person I see anywhere who isn't dressed shlubby or like a circa 2012 Colombuia outdoor wear catalogue. Part of that is living in the mathematically furthest point from art, culture, and and the pulse of the new though.
i used to like the california shabby-chic style from the mid 2000's most because it was cheap but also because of the sprezzatura nature of it was natural for me due to being a life long lazy dresser and not caring about fashion and you're right about this kind of ethos being far away from art, culture, and new thought.
i'm an engineer without a single artistic bone in my body; but i'm been surrounded all my life by artistic & politically active people (mostly through blood) and; since they're an overwhelming majority of the people i care about in my life; i've learned to let their outsized influence be the biggest source of new forms of art, culture and new thought to enter my life.
i still have my own sources for those things; but they're all grey beards like me and the stuff coming from gens z & alpha is usually much more fun. lol
Nobody ever makes fun of jeans and a death metal t shirt from my experience and i have gen alpha nieces and nephews
i sometimes wish that were true for me; but they still pick on me mercilessly and it's nice know that you live rent free in their heads. lol
Hahaha maybe mine are just nice
it's because i encourage the behavior in the hopes that it will make them comfortable with questioning authority.
i feel like i have some sort of social responsibility as the gay grand uncle to foster healthy chaos that leads to deeper understanding in my family's younger generations whenever i can and force their maga-sympathetic parents to question their views in the context of their own children and the shitty future that they're creating for them by voting for people like trump. (and also force open their minds so they won't react as badly as my parents did when their own children come out to them).
i'm sort of like a reverse racist uncle that no one wants at thanksgiving; except that the kids love me because of all the chaos and their parents are sick of my "commie bullshit" and the best part is that i'll always have a seat at the table because their grandma wants me there and knows how to twist her children's arms into making it happen, just like our mother did to us with her "commie, art-freak" friends and to my father's chagrin. lol
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm also insufferable for the adults and encourage defiant behavior in the children.
as is your birthright; well done.
I've started making my own clothes and I'm personally going for a kind of hooded luxuriant apocalypse preacher vibe. Lots of polyester, lots of quilting. It's hard but very rewarding so far, I can make honeycomb clothing now
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My aunt got me some metallic color threads last Christmas that I've also been testing as a highlighter (using an earlier attempt as canvas
I quite like the silver/red/venom green contrast...
Hexagons are the bestagons. That's awesome.
Please share some pics when you finish a piece! That style sounds sick and the honeycomb already looks great
you are so cool!!!!
whoa looks awesome
Learn how to sew!! Maybe we should make a sewing com
I recently started learning, and it's so great to make clothes that actually fit my lanky transfem frame
I found a tiny dark cramped fabric shop on a corner in my town that only takes cash and sells everything for $2 a yard, my clothing has never been cheaper
A general purpose crafting com, separate from the art one, would be sick.
I would be the phantom of that comm, posting a hundred new half-done projects, a million episode ones
The distinction between 'arts' and 'crafts' is just so much historic misogyny. There is no reason why something useful cannot be art! Particularly as communists we should work to find beauty and and actualization through the regular stuff of life.
There's no reason why a beautifully made plate you eat on each day isn't art but a plate placed in a postmodern exhibition is now magically art because of the (usually white male) artistic intent.
Traditionally "women's" work was considered crafts: quilting, weaving, spinning, sewing, clothesmaking, and so on while representational arts with less use value like painting and sculpting were mainly restricted to male artisans and deemed art.
To conclude, the art com should be expanded to include crafting particularly since it has very low activity and would not benefit from splitting with an allied (and imo overlapping) subject matter.
I feel like any sewing or other textile projects could easily be at home in fashion.
I keep flirting with the idea of getting into sashiko, but haven't had the time/energy for extra hobbies.
I would anticipate opsec issues with showing off unique clothes and cosplays we make, but it would be cool to talk about techniques, materials, gear, etc. and share our less identifying creations
Fun poncho fact! The character Chel from The Road to El-Dorado was originally planned to have her clothing be a poncho.
Just a poncho.
Kinda-sorta-NSFW official original concept art. Needless to say this didn't get approved by Dreamworks higher-ups, so they eventually went with the less-scandalous tubetop and skirt-thing. Which some believe was the production plan all along.
Normalize autistic fashion lol. Give me plain tagless tshirts and joggers/sweatpants any day.
Under communism, well made, consistent and comfortable basics will be available to all at little to no cost.
For real though, especially the consistency part. I have multiples of clothing I wear a lot, and going back to the store to find its been changed or just isn't made anymore really sucks.
I have 2 pair of super cozy joggers I just picked up and almost wanna go and get like 6 more for backups lol. I know when I need new pants, these won't be on the racks. I have a few pair of stretchy jeans that are actually wearable without too much suffering I'd like some backups for but they cost $50 and I can't afford that now.
It's funny because your comment reminds me of that old image of a grocery store shelf in Cuba full of tomato sauce and people were all like "Only one brand? We have choice in Amerikkka!" and I was like "It's fucking tomato sauce. It shouldn't even need one brand!"
Every shopping center has the same 3 chain stores around here.
I also want to wear pomchos...
Retvrn to Gun Under Poncho
We have the Mao suit and the Stalin tunic. A poncho would be cool as well. For me i'd like to incorporate some kind of sash or a small cloak.
ponchos, loose jumpsuits with lots of pockets, and sci fi helmet + flowing robe combos will all be the future of fashion.
Ponchos go hard. If I had a poncho to rock I would.
Pretty sure you can, yeah.
Only if it means we can bring back the Stetson too
While we're st it, boonie hats are communist now. If snyone sees someone in a boonie hat, ask them innocently if they're a communist
My clothes can be sorted into 4 categories: punk, goth, paramilitary and generic but necessary (thermal shirts, socks, underwear etc). When I lived in the sticks there was a huge nearby military surplus store that aside from things that could be used for hunting barely moved anything. Got sooooo many coats from there, my olive drab game is huge and I could easily play the dude in a Vietnam movie that's been in the shit too long. Even have a sleeveless vest
I'm into well used clothes. I'm not fashionable lol.
Buying used clothes and/or wearing your clothes out and mending them yourself will make them unique over time. Adding your own decoration and modifications (utilitarian or otherwise) to standard items will also make them uniquely you.
Also, ponchos are cool, I kind of prefer hoodies, but that may be my age/local climate.
Nobody's stopping you from being the change you want to see comrade.
I buy clothes from this guy called Maggot Death who's some sort of anarchist punk
Unfortunately he's turned more commercial recently printing popular band tees but there's still some good stuff.
Rubashka has some good stuff too - just an American clothing brand but they do a lot of cynical cold war related stuff.
I really just want to wear a cowled robe inscribed with occult symbols all year round. This is almost possible today, but all the companies that sell such things insist on putting their shitty brand name on everything. It's hard to be a goth.